A380 - Product launch and delivery

[jjpb3]

Facey, 085781, welcome to SQTalk.

The most recent answer to your question is in the other stickied thread on the A380, but I'll quote the post to save you the search :

9V-SKA is due to arrive in SIN at 1830 on October 17 according to folks at 9V.

[chelseanyc]

i like the new suite very much. i'm glad that some of the members (zvezda, etc) here were wrong for insisting that the suite on 77w would be the same as on the a380.

[SuperJonJon]

Facey & 085781, welcome to SQTalk

085781, I believe that the arrival is 6.30pm and will be broadcasted live on Channel 5.

[MovieMan]

Thanks everyone for the links to the videos and the pics. I agree the suites look great! That bed looks really comfy...

Have no idea when I'll have a chance to try one out, but I can dream...

[Facey]

cool thanks. sorry for posting in the wrong topic thought

[Tim]

Emirates is watching this event very closely and honestly they are the ones that came up with this concept. The scaled-up "cubicle" version SQ is now utilizing, is certainly Emirates will have to soldier on and probably will give them some ideas on how they will envisage their A380 product (improved) offer.

[DeltaFlyingProf]

I am coming in late on this thread. Going it through all of it, I have mixed feelings.
I am excited to try it, but I am not convinced about the R product. I doubt I'd shell out twice as much as F to get it.
On the positive side:

• it looks like the lounging position goes further down than the 77W, but that's an impression and until someone reports on it, it's only speculation.
• one can do like in AF F, AA F and others, have two people having dinner face each other
• double bed seems nice for a honeymoon

On the negative side:

• The bed seems narrower at shoulders than the 77W's. One of the things I like best in the 77W is the wide upper part of the bed
• In double bed mode, the heads are still separated by a piece of the shell. How are the lovebirds supposed to kiss??

Overall, I think it's too close to EK's suite and what I see of Ethiad in seems more stylish still and the face to face dinner on Ethiad seems to have a more comfortable seat for the person on the ottoman's side than this.

Only real experience will tell...

By the way, talking about the price, the fact that someone got an R seat on the auction below the price SQ is asking indicates to me that the official price is WAY above reasonable for normal operations, especially for a flight like SIN-SYD which is not that long.

[MovieMan]

By the way, talking about the price, the fact that someone got an R seat on the auction below the price SQ is asking indicates to me that the official price is WAY above reasonable for normal operations, especially for a flight like SIN-SYD which is not that long.

Good point!

[jjpb3]

By the way, talking about the price, the fact that someone got an R seat on the auction below the price SQ is asking indicates to me that the official price is WAY above reasonable for normal operations, especially for a flight like SIN-SYD which is not that long.

Agreed, but the published price at launch is hardly ever the long-run level for a non-commoditized product. For goods with a very inelastic short-run supply, you could never extract the maximum consumer surplus by starting out close to the long-run price.

There are too many factors (e.g., pure novelty, no other A380 competing products, uncertainty about the sustainability of the demand for premium travel on the Kangaroo Route) that make the price we're observing right now unreliable for a long-range forecast.

[DeltaFlyingProf]

Agreed, but the published price at launch is hardly ever the long-run level for a non-commoditized product. For goods with a very inelastic short-run supply, you could never extract the maximum consumer surplus by starting out close to the long-run price.

There are too many factors (e.g., pure novelty, no other A380 competing products, uncertainty about the sustainability of the demand for premium travel on the Kangaroo Route) that make the price we're observing right now unreliable for a long-range forecast.

I am only an engineer. I try to make the best product, not make the most money out of it! So I would not know anything about that!

But I do know what I am ready to pay and what I am not!

[jjpb3]

I am only an engineer. I try to make the best product, not make the most money out of it! So I would not know anything about that!

But I do know what I am ready to pay and what I am not!

The important thing is, you're in play for the Suites, because you can be persuaded to buy if the price drops enough (and it probably can drop to a level that makes money for SQ while pleasing your expectations).

I, on the other hand, am peripheral to the market forces at work. My reservation price is WAAAAY below yours, and there ain't no way SQ can make money off my expectations.

My main point was that you might have to wait a while before you can write a Suites TR for the rest of us. Current prices simply don't --and, the imperatives of business being what they are, won't -- reflect what they will be a year or two from now.

Patience, dear sir, patience. We'll wait with you.

[zvezda]

I think they look amazing, I cant wait for my trip in F on 29th June on the 317, hope it is on that route by then, I'm heading back on the 322 on 14th July so fingers crossed.

I think you'll be alright if SQ allow you to rebook in R class with an F fare.

i'm glad that some of the members (zvezda, etc) here were wrong for insisting that the suite on 77w would be the same as on the a380.

My guess was wrong, but I was always clear that it was only a guess. I never insisted that it would be the same as on the 777-300ER.

[PhilH]

Has anyone been thinking how the bed actually works. From the videos and pictures I've seen, it doesn't look like the seat converts into the bed, but rather that the bed is separate. The seat is on the door side of the suite, but the bed is on the window/centre side, so I'm wondering how this works.

It looks like it might be that the seat and the side table fold down and that the bed comes up out of the side container. Does that makes sense? I.e. in seat mode, the bed is stored on its end at the back of the suite. I haven't seen any animations of the suite in action, so don't know for sure. I just rigged up this image to show what I mean.

[Peter11]

I just got an email from SQ about the 380. I looked at some of the videos (dont have audio on this computer) and other info. though I could easily have missed some important stuff. While it is all interesting it is not that exciting to me. The new First I guess is okay, but where are all the speculated other features like the bar, lounge, spa, showers, bowling alley (okay I made that up)? Seriously, are there any features on this plane other than a whole lot of seats and a bigger lavatory in first? Yeah yeah, I know the suites are different, it just looks sort of claustrophobic to be enclosed in such a small compartment for 12 or so hours. I know the top airlines are going in that direction, it just is not my thing.

If in fact SQ has not incorporated any extras, then it is almost certain that as the more run of the mill airlines get the plane it simply will just be a huge cattle car, packed with even more seats. Is anyone going to make good on the concept of making travel more than just a seat/bed?

I know I sound like a sour sport, but really, there was so much hype about all the space on this plane. where did it go?

[DeltaFlyingProf]

I just got an email from SQ about the 380. I looked at some of the videos (dont have audio on this computer) and other info. though I could easily have missed some important stuff. While it is all interesting it is not that exciting to me. The new First I guess is okay, but where are all the speculated other features like the bar, lounge, spa, showers, bowling alley (okay I made that up)? Seriously, are there any features on this plane other than a whole lot of seats and a bigger lavatory in first? Yeah yeah, I know the suites are different, it just looks sort of claustrophobic to be enclosed in such a small compartment for 12 or so hours. I know the top airlines are going in that direction, it just is not my thing.

If in fact SQ has not incorporated any extras, then it is almost certain that as the more run of the mill airlines get the plane it simply will just be a huge cattle car, packed with even more seats. Is anyone going to make good on the concept of making travel more than just a seat/bed?

I know I sound like a sour sport, but really, there was so much hype about all the space on this plane. where did it go?

I agree with you. For example, in F, I would have preferred an improved SkySuite and a bar area or something of that sort to that R suite. It feels that given that the floor space has increased by 50% over the 744 while the number of seats has only increased by 25%, there is a lot of wasted space!
Again that is my personal view at the moment and once I step on board I may have a very different opinion. Only time will tell.