A380 - Product launch and delivery

[SuperJonJon]

Congrats, sQchap!

[fablee]

What a surprise for me when I boarded SQ317 at LHR yesterday morning ... it was SKF! Had a chat with the cabin crew and they were surprised themselves. Just got off the flight and my clothes still smell of the new leather seat.

Hi Very intrigued by this shot of the rego-SKF. Which part of the a/c was this on? Thank you.

[Nick C]

SKG has been spotted.

http://www.pictaero.com/en/pictures/picture,22674

[Nick C]

Hi Very intrigued by this shot of the rego-SKF. Which part of the a/c was this on? Thank you.

It's normally in the galley. On the 744, it's in the gallery between J & Y. Doors L2/R2. Not sure about the 380 though.

[Kiwi]

It looks to be one of the galleys (see the latches in the pic?).

[SQflyergirl]

SKG has been spotted.

http://www.pictaero.com/en/pictures/picture,22674

This is a few days ago. If she's to be delivered in early 2009, what's she still doing in TLS? Shouldn't she be tucked up away in XFW?

[zvezda]

This is a few days ago. If she's to be delivered in early 2009, what's she still doing in TLS? Shouldn't she be tucked up away in XFW?

The work at Finkenwerder should take a little less time now than in the past. Also, 9V-SKG will not be delivered as early in 2009 as SQ had hoped. Of course, 9V-SKG was originally contracted for delivery in 2007. The good news is that 9V-SKG will be delivered in time for the peak Lunar New Year travel season.

[Stephan]

The work at Findenwerder should take a little less time now than in the past. Also, 9V-SKG will not be delivered as early in 2009 as SQ had hoped. Of course, 9V-SKG was originally contracted for delivery in 2007. The good news is that 9V-SKG will be delivered in time for the peak Lunar New Year travel season.

The city is called Finkenwerder near Hamburg

[MAN Flyer]

There is definitely one of SQ's A380's in Hamburg. I know this as I saw it myself last week on a boat trip down the River Elbe !!. There was also two EK 380's next to it in the hangar.

It never crossed my mind that we would pass there until a colleague sat near to me facing the other way said 'Doesn't that look like the Emirates logo in that building over there!'.

It also showed that no matter how blase those of us who have seen the big fella many times now are, it is still impressive to those who haven't seen it yet. As indicated by the amount of pictures everyone on the boat was trying to take.

[zvezda]

The city is called Finkenwerder near Hamburg

Sorry for the typo.

[zvezda]

Airbus announced earlier this year that they were abandoning their previous plan to increase WhaleJet production to 45 per year starting in 2010, but had not yet decided on a new plan. I speculated at the time that the likely new target would be between 2 and 3 per month. The last few months have seen the end of the order boom (which never included the WhaleJet) and so I would be surprised if we see WhaleJet production exceeding 24 per year. WhaleJet production will certainly rise to at least 12 per year and probably to at least 18 per year.

[Verbal]

The last few months have seen the end of the order boom

Irrelevant as you would not be able to get a Superjumbo anyway for many many years because of the backlog. Superjumbo sold quite well during the boom taking into account all the production problems. Also you will never sell as many Superjumbo's (the most expensive and biggest civil airliner in the skies) as "cheap" A320's.

production will certainly rise to at least 12 per year and probably to at least 18 per year.

The Superjumbo production rate this year IS 12 so there cannot be "rise" when it already is there. Next year they will deliver 21 Superjumbo's to customers. It's near certain they will deliver more than 24 Superjumbo's in 2010.

[zvezda]

Superjumbo sold quite well during the boom taking into account all the production problems. Also you will never sell as many Superjumbo's (sic) (the most expensive and biggest civil airliner in the skies) as "cheap" A320's (sic).

WhaleJet sales during the sales boom were pathetic, never even reaching 24 per year. In other words, during the biggest sales boom in the history of commercial aviation, Airbus couldn't even sell half as many as the announced planned production rate. Clearly, WhaleJets should not be selling like A320s, but in a sales boom, they should be outselling their planned production rate. Every other airliner -- including the JumboJet -- well outsold their production rates. Even the 767 outsold its production rate.

The Superjumbo production rate this year IS 12 so there cannot be "rise" when it already is there. Next year they will deliver 21 Superjumbo's (sic) to customers. It's near certain they will deliver more than 24 Superjumbo's (sic) in 2010.

Airbus announced that they would deliver 13 WhaleJets this year. It now appears they will deliver 11. They announced 25 for next year. 21 is looking optimistic.

[Verbal]

WhaleJet[sic] sales during the sales boom were pathetic, never even reaching 24 per year.

The Superjumbo sold 33 examples last year and 24 in 2006. Very well for a program with so many troubles.

In other words, during the biggest sales boom in the history of commercial aviation, Airbus couldn't even sell half as many as the announced planned production rate.

Airbus has never said it will produce 66 Superjumbo's in a year.

Every other airliner -- including the JumboJet -- well outsold their production rates. Even the 767 outsold its production rate.

The production rates for both of these old technology airframes is negligible. You are clutching at straws as usual.

Airbus announced that they would deliver 13 WhaleJets[sic] this year. It now appears they will deliver 11. They announced 25 for next year. 21 is looking optimistic.

No Airbus will deliver 12 Superjumbo's
http://au.ibtimes.com/articles/20080...deliveries.htm
Airbus announced 21 Superjumbo deliveries in spring. I think that's not optimistic but realistic number.

[zvezda]

The Superjumbo sold 33 examples last year and 24 in 2006. Very well for a program with so many troubles.

Those numbers would be dismal if they were correct. However, according to Airbus, net WhaleJet sales were 7 in 2006 and 23 in 2007. Net is all that matters. 500 sales with 499 cancelations is not as good as 2 sales with 0 cancelations.