SIN-BCN-GRU Approved; First Flight March 2011

[wsssaero]

If they can get more 773s in the new 3-class config, then the 77Ws can be freed from regional destinations like DEL/BOM/PEK/PVG/HKG.

[jimyvr]

Schedule loaded into the system and it is accepting reservations at this hour (or when this reply appears)

http://airlineroute.net/2010/10/03/sq-grumxpbcn-s11

SQ068 SIN0135 - 0915BCN1025 - 1635GRU 77W 146
SQ067 GRU2200 - 1335+1BCN1445+1 - 0935+2SIN 77W 146

[feb01mel]

I have not seen ticketings started for GRU yet on SQ website.

How many miles will be earned from SIN-GRU ?

Will it be further than SIN-IAH, 9,925 miles ?

[LukeGT]

But.... this means 2 flights leaving from Sin to Barcelona within 3 hours on several days...

Wed 23.15 (378) - Thu 01.35 (068)
Fri 23.15 (378) - Sat 01.35 (068)
Sun 23.15 (378) - Mon 01.35 (068)

and same is for Milan....
and the same is from Milan

and from Milan to Singapore, it means 2flights/day 3*W, one flight/day 1*W, and 3 days with no flights. Am I wrong?

[LukeGT]

checking different engines reflectes different results...

for what I was able to understand:
SQ067/SQ068 operate 1-4-6, as well as SQ367/368.
SQ377 operates on 2-3-5-7
SQ378 operates on 1-2-4-6.

Anyway this still means irregular frequencies out of BCN ( 2 flights/day on 2-5-7 and no flights 1-4-6).

[SQMilan]

But.... this means 2 flights leaving from Sin to Barcelona within 3 hours on several days...

Wed 23.15 (378) - Thu 01.35 (068)
Fri 23.15 (378) - Sat 01.35 (068)
Sun 23.15 (378) - Mon 01.35 (068)

and same is for Milan....
and the same is from Milan

and from Milan to Singapore, it means 2flights/day 3*W, one flight/day 1*W, and 3 days with no flights. Am I wrong?

I've checked on SQ website. I confirm that:

SQ 378 SIN-MXP-BCN departs on 12-4-6- at 23.15
SQ 368 SIN-MXP departs on 1--4-6- at 1.35

But if you book from BCN you find all days SQ 378/377 operated via Milan. They haven't upload flight SQ67/68 on the website yet.
Very happy both for Milan and Barcelona. I thought that BCN would have been shout down if Milan-New York had been eventually operated. But I was wrong, and I'm happy for that. Congratulations, Singapore Airlines! You will reach South America soon!

Well, to have regular schedule the flight SQ67 would leave GRU on --3-5-7 in order to arrive in BCN on 1--4-6-

[LukeGT]

But SQ 67/68 is operated on 1-4-6
this is the problem

[jimyvr]

checking different engines reflectes different results...

for what I was able to understand:
SQ067/SQ068 operate 1-4-6, as well as SQ367/368.
SQ377 operates on 2-3-5-7
SQ378 operates on 1-2-4-6.

Anyway this still means irregular frequencies out of BCN ( 2 flights/day on 2-5-7 and no flights 1-4-6).

Timetable search on Amadeus is not showing SIN BCN GRU at this moment.

[SQfanatic]

My possible guess.....The B777-300ER can come from SFO (either one of the two flights) or an European flight (eg. LHR). If that happens to LHR, it may see 3rd A380, if SFO they might end up bringing the jumbo back. But I don't know for sure, let's see. My contradiction is 777-300ER anyway whether or not that happens

[9V-JKL]

I am truly impressed that SQ has managed to get a 2200 Ex-GRU departure slot during GRU's 'rush hour'.

I think there's an error for the Milan flights 368/7. I believe that it should be 257 in order to make it daily.

The BCN ones are correct. Boldings are days ex-BCN for SIN.
SIN-BCN-GRU
111
444
666
GRU-BCN-SIN
123
456
671
SIN-MXP-BCN
233
344
566
711
BCN-MXP-SIN
112
334
445
667
On 146, you'll see 2 77Ws in BCN but both departing different directions.
Am I making sense?

So it sort of means that there are no flights ex-SIN for BCN on 146 evenings making it while 7 flights/week but really only operating 4 times/week

[9V-JKL]

I have not seen ticketings started for GRU yet on SQ website.

How many miles will be earned from SIN-GRU ?

Will it be further than SIN-IAH, 9,925 miles ?

Based on Great Circle Mapper : 9,947

[SQMilan]

The solution, IMHO is:

SQ 378 SIN-MXP-BCN 0.10-6.55 7.55-9.30 -23-5-7
SQ 377 BCN-MXP-SIN 10.50-12.30 13.40-7.45 -23-5-7 (arriving SIN 1-34-6-).

SQ 368 SIN-MXP 1.35-8.20 1--4-6-
SQ 367 MXP-SIN 11.00-5.05 1--4-6- (arriving SIN -2--5-7)

SQ 068 SIN-BCN 1.35-9.15 BCN-GRU 10.25 16.35 1--4-6-
SQ 067 GRU-BCN 22.00-13.35 --3-5-7 (arriving BCN 1--4-6-)
SQ 067 BCN-SIN 14.45-9.35 1--4-6- (arriving SIN -2--5-7)

There is a VERY BIG problem: you have to stop the aircraft in GRU 1 day or 2 days! But if the aircraft have departed from GRU on the same day of arrival, the next day there would be two departures from BCN to SIN.

[zvezda]

There is a VERY BIG problem: you have to stop the aircraft in GRU 1 day or 2 days!

Parking a 777-300ER at GRU for 24 hours 3x weekly would kill the economics of the route.

[SQMilan]

Yes, I know, but there is not any other solution if you want to maintain 7 flights to BCN, one for each day, with these schedules

[zvezda]

Yes, I know, but there is not any other solution if you want to maintain 7 flights to BCN, one for each day, with these schedules

Then it's not possible to maintain 7 flights to BCN, one for each day, with these schedules.