Where is the A380 flying to next?

[HUGE AL]

They need to have a SIN-NRT-LAX route with either the ER or the A380. It's retarded that no US routes have A380.

Europe has 1, autralia has 1 USA 0!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It's kinda lame Los angeles has only 744 and Direct flight. At least up the ante and do 773ER.

OR REFURBISH the 744 business class and First class.

See Post #60. Although, this was before the OFFICIAL economic downturn.

[Nick C]

They need to have a SIN-NRT-LAX route with either the ER or the A380. It's retarded that no US routes have A380.

Look at the competition they have on that route. NH/JL/AA/UA/KE use full flat suites in F, slanted lie flat seats or recliners in J, AVOD PTVs or overhead IFE in Y which is on par with the F/J/Y on the 744; unlike HKG-SFO where UA/CX have 180 lie flats in J leading SQ to withdraw the 744 and deploy the 77W with the new F/J/Y. Not to forget the US recession which is leading to very low loads, it makes more sense to deploy the 388 to another destination with better loads.

It's not like the US doesn't see the new F/J/Y product. 5 of the 7 US flights have the new product with the exception of R class.

SQ62/61 SIN-DME-IAH vv
SQ22/21 SIN-EWR vv
SQ38/37 SIN-LAX vv
SQ16/15 SIN-ICN-SFO vv
SQ2/1 SIN-HKG-SFO vv

OR REFURBISH the 744 business class and First class.

Not going to happen.

[TerryK]

...OR REFURBISH the 744 business class and First class.

All SQ 744s are to be retired by 2011. Yeah! Not going to happen.

US is the epic center of current downturn. There is no need for more capacity from A380. Yes, I would like to see A380 to LAX too, but it won't be anytime soon. OTOH, I think there is a slight chance that LAX may get the 77Ws.

[Bitterroot]

OTOH, I think there is a slight chance that LAX may get the 77Ws.

Uh, where would they get the airframes? The ones to be released from the two CDG flights are already committed; the 19th 77W goes to re-instate the China and Australia services that have been temporarily downgraded to free up planes for SQ 1 and 2; and there aren't any more to come.

Perhaps if some 773s are upgraded with new seats, and then placed on routes to India or China in lieu of 77Ws.....

[kras]

All SQ 744s are to be retired by 2011. Yeah! Not going to happen.

US is the epic center of current downturn. There is no need for more capacity from A380. Yes, I would like to see A380 to LAX too, but it won't be anytime soon. OTOH, I think there is a slight chance that LAX may get the 77Ws.

I reckon SFO should get the 388 for a first-choice US port, even though I do agree that SIN-NRT-LAX would make sense since SQ637/638 is already being served by one of the five Whalejets in service.

I also believe that one of the reasons as to why SQ didn't look into serving 388 equipment into LAX is because QF had the exclusive right to bring the Whale there first. Now that this has already happened, it should free up the possibility of other airlines serving this port.

However, with the current economic conditions, one would think twice before making such a decision. SQ's decision to bring the 77W aircraft onto the SQ1/2 route makes perfect sense in troubled times like these, and is a win-win for both the airline and its customers - as it also features the newer F-J-Y offerings too.

[nursalimLPP]

OK, along with a few others, I have always thought this thread was really...hmmm...searching for the correct P/C term here...well...you get the idea...

That said, in true fashion HUGE AL wanted to help out:

Was told by an LSS and IFS yesterday that NRT-LAX is the next route to get the whale. Initially, SQ was going to put it on the HKG-SFO route, but the Chinese crews have not completed their training yet and the Japanese crews are all ready to go.

That is all...

Awesomeness. My next trip is in apirl to singapore Via NRT hopefully by than it be a388. Indonesia's legislative election so i have to go home. And back to LA again and back again to indonesia in july indonesia's presidential election.

[nursalimLPP]

I flew sq 11 and sq 12 first class half full Business class full econ FULL.

Load seems pretty alright got a friend in singapore airlines she told me load on sq 11 and sq 12 are pretty decent coz it is through nrt and usuall sin-nrt-sin is packed. Just nrt-lax is not so pack but pretty decent she said. Much better than direct flights.

I did try direct 1 time i couldnt stand the duration my god over 15hours i am like i need xanax or i am going to start pulling my hair out.

[kras]

I did try direct 1 time i couldnt stand the duration my god over 15hours i am like i need xanax or i am going to start pulling my hair out.

Yeah, it can get a bit crazy up there after so long...

But I usually head to the back of the A345 to chill out with the crew and some of the other passengers who've also decided to stretch their legs.

At other times, I'll either sleep it off or catch up on some cinema experience that I somewhat lack

[Nick C]

Uh, where would they get the airframes? The ones to be released from the two CDG flights are already committed; the 19th 77W goes to re-instate the China and Australia services that have been temporarily downgraded to free up planes for SQ 1 and 2; and there aren't any more to come.

Perhaps if some 773s are upgraded with new seats, and then placed on routes to India or China in lieu of 77Ws.....

The 77W also downgauges the 744 on SQ231/232 SIN-SYD wef 02 JUN.

Knowing SQ, I believe some agreements regarding the sale of the 777s have been firmed before the recession so we will be seeing them leave the fleet regardless. The refurbished 773s will be deployed downunder as well (MEL apparently?)

Awesomeness. My next trip is in apirl to singapore Via NRT hopefully by than it be a388. Indonesia's legislative election so i have to go home. And back to LA again and back again to indonesia in july indonesia's presidential election.

It won't be a 388 for sure. The next 2 388 deliveries will be used to upgauge the 77Ws to CDG.

[TerryK]

Awesomeness. My next trip is in apirl to singapore Via NRT hopefully by than it be a388....

You need 2 A380s to fly daily SIN-NRT-LAX and back. Since the next 2 A380s have been committed to SIN-CDG route, you need to wait for the 2 A380s after that, at the earliest. They are due towards the end of 2009, or may even slip into 2010.

[TerryK]

Uh, where would they get the airframes?.....

Good point! I forgot that 19 firm orders for 77W have all been spoken for. Bummer! We may need to wait until late 2009/early 2010 to see new R/F/C on SIN-NRT-LAX on A380.

[zvezda]

You need 2 A380s to fly daily SIN-NRT-LAX and back.

That's a fair approximation, but 2 aircraft is not enough to fly SIN-NRT-LAX and back on a sustained basis because of MX requirements. It would work for 6x weekly service. Add something like SIN-HKG to the rotation and 3 aircraft would suffice on a long-term basis.

[YK@HKG]

A380 flying to Paris....that's what I saw on the singaporeair.com a few minutes ago

[nursalimLPP]

Arent they already flying sin-nrt on the night flights?

[Russ]

A380 flying to Paris....

Yes they are but it is kinda strange.

Paris was a 744 route with 375 seats
Then they change it to 278 on a 77W, reduction of almost 100 seats
Now they want to do A380 with 471 seats, an increase of almost 200 seats from the 77W

Did demand suddenly drop when the 77W came in?
Is demand now very high that it warrants the A380? Or is frequency reduced?