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  • Wonder what they'll name the 4th runway? 03R?

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    • Originally posted by FSJZ View Post
      Project Jewel









      Image Source: The Straits Times

      The Moshe Safdie design is a tad different from the old Budget Terminal look-and-feel. Oh well, I guess Hospital-Ward-chic is out...

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      • I'd be great to see some renderings of T4 and T5 as well.

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        • Reading between the lines, clearing Paya Lebar is to free up space to house 6.9M population.... as is moving the port to Tuas....

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          • Originally posted by 9V-JKL View Post
            Reading between the lines, clearing Paya Lebar is to free up space to house 6.9M population.... as is moving the port to Tuas....

            Not sure you can fit 6.9m people in Paya Lebar but after having a look at Pinnacle@Duxton, it might not be too far away.

            Moving the port, whilst freeing up hugely expensive sea front land, is more about consolidating activities in one place, boosting efficiency, getting trucks out of the centre of SG and is a good excuse for scrapping so much old equipment around Tanjong Pagar that must be 20-30yrs old now.

            Changi take note......all in one place to consolidate activities, boost efficiency and scrap old equipment.

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            • Originally posted by 9V-JKL View Post
              Reading between the lines, clearing Paya Lebar is to free up space to house 6.9M population.... as is moving the port to Tuas....
              Have you noticed when landing on 20C or 20R?

              Soon Pulau Tekong will join the mainland!
              Last edited by 9V-SIA; 20 August 2013, 09:05 PM.

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              • Originally posted by flyguy View Post
                What i meant is not that the air force will be doing exercises around the airport - but that the air force planes will be taking off and landing during exercises or training from the airport - if you do go down to Ubi or Ponggol now where Paya Lebar airport is nearby, one would see and hear fighters and transport planes be buzzing through daily and at odd times at night when night training is done. One can often see F15s coming in to land and taking off and lumbering C130s flying even in loop around the airport.
                hence when the air base is relocated to Changi after 2030, one would expect airforce planes doing the same - and as the runways are all running parallel to each other, and not all aircrafts can use the 4 runways simultanously at the same time for take-off and landings - hence flights will be disrupted somewhat with the air base just next to Changi.


                Such a shame they didn't send you a draft a few weeks ago so you could have pointed all this out to them.

                Originally posted by scooby5 View Post
                and is a good excuse for scrapping so much old equipment around Tanjong Pagar that must be 20-30yrs old now.
                Scrapping stuff that is just 20 years old ?. You cannot possibly work in the marine industry.

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                • http://app.mot.gov.sg/News_Centre/La...rtunities.aspx

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                  • Originally posted by CarbonMan View Post
                    Wonder what they'll name the 4th runway? 03R?
                    I was thinking 02L, 02R, 03L and 03R

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                    • Originally posted by flyguy View Post
                      What i meant is not that the air force will be doing exercises around the airport - but that the air force planes will be taking off and landing during exercises or training from the airport - if you do go down to Ubi or Ponggol now where Paya Lebar airport is nearby, one would see and hear fighters and transport planes be buzzing through daily and at odd times at night when night training is done. One can often see F15s coming in to land and taking off and lumbering C130s flying even in loop around the airport.
                      hence when the air base is relocated to Changi after 2030, one would expect airforce planes doing the same - and as the runways are all running parallel to each other, and not all aircrafts can use the 4 runways simultanously at the same time for take-off and landings - hence flights will be disrupted somewhat with the air base just next to Changi.
                      I think Changi will only have 3 runways for commercial use. The forth runway will most likely be used for military activities only, as is 02R/20L now.

                      Sometimes, you do get military planes taking off and landing at 02L/20R for access to Changi Airbase (West). Not much disturbance to traffic though

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                      • yes the current Air base at Changi is only home to 6 F50s and 4 KC-135s and their limited use of the current runways do not pose much disruptions. However in future the whole Paya Lebar air base will be moved to Changi and taking into account the military transport planes and the fighter squadrons will be moving over, there will be alot more military aircrafts using the adjacent new military runway which parallels the 3 commercial runways.

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                        • Originally posted by flyguy View Post
                          However in future the whole Paya Lebar air base will be moved to Changi and taking into account the military transport planes and the fighter squadrons will be moving over, there will be alot more military aircrafts using the adjacent new military runway which parallels the 3 commercial runways.
                          I hope you've pointed this oversight out to them.

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                          • Originally posted by flyguy View Post
                            yes the current Air base at Changi is only home to 6 F50s and 4 KC-135s and their limited use of the current runways do not pose much disruptions. However in future the whole Paya Lebar air base will be moved to Changi and taking into account the military transport planes and the fighter squadrons will be moving over, there will be alot more military aircrafts using the adjacent new military runway which parallels the 3 commercial runways.
                            actually, apart from Changi West AB (KC135s and F50s) a currently operational Changi EAST AB is operating F16s from the future 3rd runway, in almost the same alignment as the current 2 civilian runways. So i'm sure the ATC have worked out all the possible issues. Besides, PLAB is not the only RSAF base around; Tengah has scope for expansion too i imagine.

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                            • Where's our resident economist? Too many air bases for this small island?
                              The world's too large a place not to go wandering.

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                              • Originally posted by viraj735 View Post
                                Where's our resident economist? Too many air bases for this small island?
                                Probably waiting for something remarkable to happen at HKG, or perhaps an A380 incident.

                                Originally posted by flyguy View Post
                                yes the current Air base at Changi is only home to 6 F50s and 4 KC-135s and their limited use of the current runways do not pose much disruptions. However in future the whole Paya Lebar air base will be moved to Changi and taking into account the military transport planes and the fighter squadrons will be moving over, there will be alot more military aircrafts using the adjacent new military runway which parallels the 3 commercial runways.
                                So is the plan to ultimately close Paya Lebar? Just curious.

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