Third runway and T4

[jammed]

Ah, is that where they go round and round wasting jet fuel! Not one but two of them!

the choppers (Chinooks and Apaches) staged out from Sembawang Air Base, hooked up the flags over Sudong and typically entered into an orbiting circuit over the sea between Sentosa and Jurong Island, to await the cue to fly over the Parade. There were two of them for contingency - its the military, and the Singapore military at that, where there's redundancy built into redundancy

[CarbonMan]

and staging point for Chinook to hook up giant SGP flag for NDP

Ah, is that where they go round and round wasting jet fuel! Not one but two of them!

[jammed]

and staging point for Chinook to hook up giant SGP flag for NDP

[SINFJ]

There's also a strip on Sudong Island, south of Jurong Island. Any idea what is that used for?

Sudong, together with Pawai and Senang is a MINDEF live firing area. The air strip is used for landings and take-offs by fighters as well as helis.

[flying.monkeyz]

at this time SIN actually have 5 airports and if includes the Changi naval base and its adjoining runway then its 6 - but the 5 are Changi, Paya Lebar (till after 2030), Seletar, Tengah and Sembawang airbase.

There's also a strip on Sudong Island, south of Jurong Island. Any idea what is that used for?

[flyguy]

at this time SIN actually have 5 airports and if includes the Changi naval base and its adjoining runway then its 6 - but the 5 are Changi, Paya Lebar (till after 2030), Seletar, Tengah and Sembawang airbase.

[CarbonMan]

Too many air bases for this small island?

But we do! Am sure if we got rid of Tengah & Sembawang as well, we'll *easily* squeeze another 5M people!

Of course I'm just joking about a fictitious place in another planet.

[9V-JKL]

So is the plan to ultimately close Paya Lebar? Just curious.

Yes. Land to be redeveloped for commercial & residential purposes.

[SQGamespeed]

Where's our resident economist? Too many air bases for this small island?

Probably waiting for something remarkable to happen at HKG, or perhaps an A380 incident.

yes the current Air base at Changi is only home to 6 F50s and 4 KC-135s and their limited use of the current runways do not pose much disruptions. However in future the whole Paya Lebar air base will be moved to Changi and taking into account the military transport planes and the fighter squadrons will be moving over, there will be alot more military aircrafts using the adjacent new military runway which parallels the 3 commercial runways.

So is the plan to ultimately close Paya Lebar? Just curious.

[viraj735]

Where's our resident economist? Too many air bases for this small island?

[jammed]

yes the current Air base at Changi is only home to 6 F50s and 4 KC-135s and their limited use of the current runways do not pose much disruptions. However in future the whole Paya Lebar air base will be moved to Changi and taking into account the military transport planes and the fighter squadrons will be moving over, there will be alot more military aircrafts using the adjacent new military runway which parallels the 3 commercial runways.

actually, apart from Changi West AB (KC135s and F50s) a currently operational Changi EAST AB is operating F16s from the future 3rd runway, in almost the same alignment as the current 2 civilian runways. So i'm sure the ATC have worked out all the possible issues. Besides, PLAB is not the only RSAF base around; Tengah has scope for expansion too i imagine.

[MAN Flyer]

However in future the whole Paya Lebar air base will be moved to Changi and taking into account the military transport planes and the fighter squadrons will be moving over, there will be alot more military aircrafts using the adjacent new military runway which parallels the 3 commercial runways.

I hope you've pointed this oversight out to them.

[flyguy]

yes the current Air base at Changi is only home to 6 F50s and 4 KC-135s and their limited use of the current runways do not pose much disruptions. However in future the whole Paya Lebar air base will be moved to Changi and taking into account the military transport planes and the fighter squadrons will be moving over, there will be alot more military aircrafts using the adjacent new military runway which parallels the 3 commercial runways.

[FSJZ]

What i meant is not that the air force will be doing exercises around the airport - but that the air force planes will be taking off and landing during exercises or training from the airport - if you do go down to Ubi or Ponggol now where Paya Lebar airport is nearby, one would see and hear fighters and transport planes be buzzing through daily and at odd times at night when night training is done. One can often see F15s coming in to land and taking off and lumbering C130s flying even in loop around the airport.
hence when the air base is relocated to Changi after 2030, one would expect airforce planes doing the same - and as the runways are all running parallel to each other, and not all aircrafts can use the 4 runways simultanously at the same time for take-off and landings - hence flights will be disrupted somewhat with the air base just next to Changi.

I think Changi will only have 3 runways for commercial use. The forth runway will most likely be used for military activities only, as is 02R/20L now.

Sometimes, you do get military planes taking off and landing at 02L/20R for access to Changi Airbase (West). Not much disturbance to traffic though

[FSJZ]

Wonder what they'll name the 4th runway? 03R?

I was thinking 02L, 02R, 03L and 03R