A380/77W: route and equipment rumours

[Kyo]

Just a general observation thingo - I think SQ would rather deploy their 77Ws on Aussie / North Asia routes way before using one on AMS... as has been previously mentioned, irrelevant competition on SIN-AMS doesn't justify throwing away a 77W here...

[vincent0720]

ohh, so you guys are saying 747 SIN-FRA-JFK might decompose into 77W SIN-FRA-JFK-TPE-SIN

haha! If I understand correctly, this is a possible route.

[Bitterroot]

SQ25 could be re-timed to depart FRA at 07:30 and arrive SIN just after midnight.

Unlikely. SQ25 picks up a lot of connecting passengers off morning codeshares on LH flights inbound to FRA around 1000 -- 1100.

[SQ228]

For AMS, chances of 777-300ER service are slim. For CPH and especially for ATH, the chances closely approximate zero.

I'd agree with that completely. Both times that I've flown from SIN- AMS in the past 2 years the plane hasn't even been half-full. Maybe I just got lucky, but no other European route has ever been as empty when I've flown it.

[eriond]

ohh, so you guys are saying 747 SIN-FRA-JFK might decompose into 77W SIN-FRA-JFK-TPE-SIN

haha! If I understand correctly, this is a possible route.

Does this mean that SQ26 will operate as 388 and SQ326 will operate as 77W.
SIN-TPE-JFK-FRA-JFK-TPE-SIN will operate as a separate 77W and timed to meet SQ25 back to SIN appropriately?

[TerryK]

Does this mean that SQ26 will operate as 388 and SQ326 will operate as 77W.
SIN-TPE-JFK-FRA-JFK-TPE-SIN will operate as a separate 77W and timed to meet SQ25 back to SIN appropriately?

Humm, interesting possibility.

This may actually work.
SIN 0630 - TPE 1100
TPE 1230 - JFK 1630
JFK 1800 - FRA 0700+1
FRA 0900 - JFK 1130
JFK 1330 - TPE 1730+1
TPE 1900 - SIN 2330

It will an awfully long trip for the crew, assuming that they follow the entire journey.

Timing of each sector is good for local traffic. But you need 3 1/2 77Ws to operate this itinerary on a sustainable basis. Where can SQ find them? You also need 1 1/2 A388 to operate SIN-FRA-SIN.

[WBT]

I'd agree with that completely. Both times that I've flown from SIN- AMS in the past 2 years the plane hasn't even been half-full. Maybe I just got lucky, but no other European route has ever been as empty when I've flown it.

This is not my experience. I've flown SIN-AMS about 15 times in the last two years and the cabin was half empty only once. Typically there have only been a handful of free seats, irrespective of which day of the week I was flying on, and many times the flight has been completely full in Y and C. I've been waiting for an upgauge as it's hard to get seats at all sometimes.

[zvezda]

It will an awfully long trip for the crew, assuming that they follow the entire journey.

Both flight and cabin crew would get 1 or 2 nights rest after each segment.

[TerryK]

Both flight and cabin crew would get 1 or 2 nights rest after each segment.

Yes, that will make it 12 day assignment for crew. Most USA assignments, SIN-NRT-LAX, SIN-ICN-SFO, etc., are 7-8 day. Not sure how SIN-BCN-GRU will work but it should be 9-10 day.

[zvezda]

Not sure how SIN-BCN-GRU will work but it should be 9-10 day.

Crew rotations are likely to be similar for SIN-BCN-GRU as for SIN-DME-IAH.

[feb01mel]

Crew rotations are likely to be similar for SIN-BCN-GRU as for SIN-DME-IAH.

At least for the first few months, not every crew will have a chance to go to GRU, those selected will now have to go for the injection jab vaccination first before being certified fit to GRU.

[KC*]

For AMS, chances of 777-300ER service are slim. For CPH and especially for ATH, the chances closely approximate zero.

I'd agree with that completely. Both times that I've flown from SIN- AMS in the past 2 years the plane hasn't even been half-full. Maybe I just got lucky, but no other European route has ever been as empty when I've flown it.

Thanks for the input. I have no experience with CPH and ATH but AMS loads from my (very limited) experiences were high. Though from SQ228's personal observation, I guess I was just darn unlucky to always get near full flights.

I haven't flown to AMS for quite a while but noticed that it is rather difficult to secure an award ticket on it when I tried recently. I guess that did not give much representation of the true load.

Now I am wondering where to plonk some miles for a few J saver seats later in the year in the hope of an equipment change to the 380 or at least a 77W.

[9V-JKL]

At least for the first few months, not every crew will have a chance to go to GRU, those selected will now have to go for the injection jab vaccination first before being certified fit to GRU.

I presume you're referring to Yellow Fever vaccination. Technically speaking, it's not required, but if there's a yellow fever epidemic, then those without the vaccination and the cert that proves you've had the jab, you will not be allowed to enter Brasil

[eamond]

Why not put A380s or B777-300ERs on Shanghai or Beijing routes for SQ830 & SQ802? Both these flights are B777-300 (18 seater in First Class) for dates in Jan 2012. There are 4 to 5 flights a day to Shanghai and 3 to Beijing...

I believe SQ830/833 to/from PVG is currectly operated with the reconfigured B773 (9V-SYF) right now..

[a340-313x]

I believe SQ830/833 to/from PVG is currectly operated with the reconfigured B773 (9V-SYF) right now..

As mentioned before, 9V-SYF is now on SQ408/407, it has never been on SQ830/833.