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YVR-ICN-SIN: SQ17
SIN-ICN-YVR: SQ18
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My flight is confirmed. I called them this morning. April 25 will be the last flight to and from YVR.
YVR-ICN-SIN: SQ17
SIN-ICN-YVR: SQ18 -
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YVR Vancouver Metro / Vancouver Int'l BC CA = CXH YVR [CYVR]
SIN Singapore Changi SG [WSSS]
SAT 25 Apr 2009
Carrier Flight From Depart To Arrive A/C St Availability
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SQ 17 YVR 19:30 SIN 05:00 +2 772 1 Z4 C4 J4 D4 Y9 E9 B9 M9 W9 H9 Q9 N9 S9 T0 V9 L9 K9
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YVR Vancouver Metro / Vancouver Int'l BC CA = CXH YVR [CYVR]
SIN Singapore Changi SG [WSSS]
SUN 26 Apr 2009
Carrier Flight From Depart To Arrive A/C St Availability
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SQ/AC 1037 YVR 14:30 SFO 16:49 E90 0 C4 J4 D4 Y4 B4 M4 W4 N4 Q4 V4
-> SQ 1 SFO 01:05 +1 SIN 11:40 +2 77W 1 F4 P0 A4 Z4 C4 J4 D4 Y9 B9 W9 Q9 N9 V0 S0 E9 M9 H0 T0 L0 K0
SQ/AC 1037 YVR 14:30 SFO 16:49 E90 0 C4 J4 D4 Y4 B4 M4 W4 N4 Q4 V4
-> SQ 1 SFO 01:05 +1 HKG 06:35 +2 77W 0 F4 P0 A4 Z4 C4 J4 D4 S0 E9 M9 H0 T0 L0 K0 Y9 B9 W9 Q9 N9 V0
-> SQ 859 HKG 10:30 +2 SIN 14:10 +2 772 0 F4 P0 A4 Z4 C4 J4 D4 S0 Y9 B9 E9 M9 H0 W9 Q9 N9 V0 T0 L0 K0Comment
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Thanks for the clarrificationOriginally posted by pogonation View Post
As a person who lives in eastern Canada, yeah now I have to think about that now.Originally posted by sumitsan View Post
As I live in Montreal, there is a whole heap of flights to and from CDG to YUL (3 AF flights daily, and I believe 2 from AC; not to mention Air Transat flights to and from Orly). There is also the 2 daily flights to LHR (BA and AC) and well a few others to LGW. FRA is served with an AC flight (I don't think we have LH anymore here in Montreal, or if we do its seasonal and to Munich). We have a rare flight with Olympic Airlines to ATH, (if I am not mistaken) a daily flight to AMS with KLM, and of course the LX/AC flight to ZRH.
From YYZ (Toronto) it wont be a problem, or elsewhere in Canada. LHR is well served across Canada (after all they are our distant cousin that we're trying to write out of the Will [hehehe, kidding]). I mean, worse case scenario, from either YVR (as already stated) and YYZ, you can get to the other side of the Pacific from there.
But as someone who solely flys in Economy, I learnt (the "hard" way) that unless you book on SQ's website you cannot select seats (2007, i did it via the phone, and last year via their website). So i mean, I can either (a) go their a travel agent and get charged directly in CAD (although I am sure it is charged in the local currency of the outbound flight, but I don't see that) but lose the chance to select seats or (b) go via SQ's website, be subjected to the local currency of the place of my outbound flight, however have the chance to select my seats...my brain hurts lol
So with all that said, I think the best choice for me (at present) would be to go through SFO (unless JFK switches to a 77W, although that probably won't happen anytime soon). I know LAX is another option, but I was warned quite nicely, that unless I really do hate myself, don't go that route 
I don't think it would have made a difference, and again thats just my opinion. The only reason I can think of, is that us Canucks want the best bang for the buck option (well best bang for the buck coupled with comfort). Futhermore given that inter-Canadian flying is just, well, really funny in terms of pricing, the probable common misconnception would be to disregard Business class fares and look solely at Economy class fares. I love the fact that, in some ways, it's cheaper to fly to LHR from Montreal than it is to YVROriginally posted by Nick C View Post
Sunday when I finally came back to SQ talk, and read this I immediately went to SQ's website and did a mock booking for June 8th to 22nd, and SQ 17 and 18 came up. Yesterday (Monday), no such luck option comes up now. So yeah what you just posted there backs up what I found.Originally posted by SQ All The Way View Post
EDIT: SQ 17/18 only flies 1-4-6. I mean I know you will come up with the same results, but would you mind please double checking the return route?I'm still waiting for my cookie as my first name is Kris
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As requested following are the SIN-YVR schedules for SQ......you'll see the last flight is on Sat, April 25th.Originally posted by hofo_mofo View Post
Code:SIN Singapore Changi SG [WSSS] YVR Vancouver Metro / Vancouver Int'l BC CA = CXH YVR [CYVR] SAT 25 Apr 2009 Carrier Flight From Depart To Arrive A/C St Availability --------- ------ ---- --------- ---- --------- ---- ---- -------------------------------------------------- SQ 18 SIN 15:20 YVR 17:55 772 1 Z4 C4 J4 D4 Y9 E9 B9 M9 W9 H9 Q9 N9 S9 T0 V9 L9 K9 SQ 16 SIN 09:15 ICN 16:45 77W 0 F4 P4 A4 Z4 C4 J4 D4 Y0 S0 E0 B0 M0 W0 H0 Q0 N0 T0 V0 L0 K0 -> SQ 18 ICN 23:55 YVR 17:55 772 0 Z4 C4 J4 D4 Y0 E0 B0 M0 W0 H0 Q0 N0 S0 T0 V0 L0 K0
Code:SIN Singapore Changi SG [WSSS] YVR Vancouver Metro / Vancouver Int'l BC CA = CXH YVR [CYVR] SUN 26 Apr 2009 Carrier Flight From Depart To Arrive A/C St Availability --------- ------ ---- --------- ---- --------- ---- ---- ----------------------------------------------------------- SQ 16 SIN 09:15 SFO 12:40 77W 1 F4 P0 A1 Z4 C4 J4 D4 Y9 B0 W0 Q0 N0 V0 S0 E0 M9 H0 T0 L0 K0 -> SQ/AC 1046 SFO 19:55 YVR 22:08 E90 0 C4 J4 D4 Y4 B4 M4 W4 N4 Q4 V4
Code:SIN Singapore Changi SG [WSSS] YVR Vancouver Metro / Vancouver Int'l BC CA = CXH YVR [CYVR] MON 27 Apr 2009 Carrier Flight From Depart To Arrive A/C St Availability --------- ------ ---- --------- ---- --------- ---- ---- ----------------------------------------------------------- SQ 16 SIN 09:15 SFO 12:40 77W 1 F4 P0 A2 Z4 C4 J4 D4 Y9 B9 W9 Q9 N9 V0 S0 E9 M9 H0 T0 L0 K0 -> SQ/AC 1046 SFO 19:55 YVR 22:08 E90 0 C4 J4 D4 Y4 B4 M4 W4 N4 Q4 V4 SQ 18 SIN 15:20 YVR 17:55 1 CANCELLED SQ 16 SIN 09:15 ICN 16:45 77W 0 F4 P0 A4 Z4 C4 J4 D0 Y9 S0 E9 B9 M9 W0 H4 Q9 N0 T0 V0 L0 K0 -> SQ 18 ICN 23:55 YVR 17:55 0 CANCELLED
Code:SIN Singapore Changi SG [WSSS] YVR Vancouver Metro / Vancouver Int'l BC CA = CXH YVR [CYVR] TUE 28 Apr 2009 Carrier Flight From Depart To Arrive A/C St Availability --------- ------ ---- --------- ---- --------- ---- ---- ----------------------------------------------------------- SQ 16 SIN 09:15 SFO 12:40 77W 1 F3 P0 A0 Z4 C4 J4 D4 Y9 B9 W9 Q9 N9 V9 S0 E9 M9 H9 T0 L0 K0 -> SQ/AC 1046 SFO 19:55 YVR 22:08 E90 0 C4 J4 D4 Y4 B4 M4 W4 N4 Q4 V4
Code:SIN Singapore Changi SG [WSSS] YVR Vancouver Metro / Vancouver Int'l BC CA = CXH YVR [CYVR] WED 29 Apr 2009 Carrier Flight From Depart To Arrive A/C St Availability --------- ------ ---- --------- ---- --------- ---- ---- ----------------------------------------------------------- SQ 16 SIN 09:15 SFO 12:40 77W 1 F4 P0 A0 Z4 C4 J4 D4 Y9 B9 W9 Q9 N9 V9 S0 E9 M9 H9 T0 L0 K0 -> SQ/AC 1046 SFO 19:55 YVR 22:08 E90 0 C4 J4 D4 Y4 B4 M4 W4 N4 Q4 V4
Code:SIN Singapore Changi SG [WSSS] YVR Vancouver Metro / Vancouver Int'l BC CA = CXH YVR [CYVR] THU 30 Apr 2009 Carrier Flight From Depart To Arrive A/C St Availability --------- ------ ---- --------- ---- --------- ---- ---- ----------------------------------------------------------- SQ 16 SIN 09:15 SFO 12:40 77W 1 F4 P0 A0 Z4 C4 J4 D4 Y9 B9 W9 Q9 N9 V0 S0 E9 M9 H0 T0 L0 K0 -> SQ/AC 1046 SFO 19:55 YVR 22:08 E90 0 C4 J4 D4 Y4 B4 M4 W4 N4 Q4 V4 SQ 18 SIN 15:20 YVR 17:55 1 CANCELLED SQ 16 SIN 09:15 ICN 16:45 77W 0 F4 P0 A4 Z4 C4 J4 D4 Y9 S0 E9 B9 M9 W0 H0 Q9 N0 T0 V0 L0 K0 -> SQ 18 ICN 23:55 YVR 17:55 0 CANCELLED
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Hahaha you verified it and then some...Originally posted by SQ All The Way View Post Although after I saw your post I realized I could have checked this myself, as even though I don't KVS installed on my computer here, I also have a subscription to Expertflyer...oops my bad! Thanks again though!!
I'm still waiting for my cookie as my first name is KrisComment
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This is sad. And I guess this means no more SQ flights go to Canada.Comment
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Except the cargo flight which I think will still go to YVR.Originally posted by vincent0720 View PostComment
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wew... one of my brother last year on December bought SQ ticket CGK-YVR-CGK... He bought 1 year ticket because he doesn't know yet when he will back to JKT.. So usually will SQ have return 1/2 of the payment or give another airline ticket... wew may be I should ask my brother did SQ have contact him about this....
Thanks
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They should let us book a "seat" on the cargo flights. I dont mind sitting on top of a box at 1/3 of the price of an Economy ticketOriginally posted by Guy Betsy View Post
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I have been asked why I had not commented in this thread at all. Well, at last, I could compose myself, and you can find my thought here.Comment
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I will be taking the last flight on April 25 from SIN-YVR. I will shoot video and post it here.Comment
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Aficionados are reeling from news that Singapore Airlines is axing its 20-year-old service to Vancouver.
"We just got an e-mail that they are cancelling their flight. We never guessed it could happen," said Ravinder Gaba, a Vancouver-based travel agent who specializes in South Asia.
"I have talked to other agents and no one saw it coming. They have been here for so long. And it is a surprise, because it is a big name."
By that, Gaba means that the airline has long described itself as the world's heftiest by market cap; analysts have oft-lauded it as the best run and most profitable; and industry reviewers have consistently voted it No. 1 in many surveys.
But, of course, the mighty are stumbling all around the world and this example, in particular, gives B.C. consumers a front-seat view of the turmoil in Asia's hardest-hit economies.
While China, India and Japan have hogged most recession-in-Asia headlines, this is a rare line into Singapore and Korea.
Even before the global credit crisis, Singapore was running out of steam, according to economist Yuwa Hedrick-Wong, who is based there. "Its so-called non-oil domestic exports plunged in early 2008, largely due to its badly managed currency policy. The Singapore dollar stayed too high for too long, sapping the competitiveness of its electronic exports, and when overseas demand collapsed, the entire sector that was weak to begin with got wiped out.
"On top of it all, Temasek, the state-owned investment fund, has lost about $50 billion US in the last three years," said Hedrick-Wong in an e-mail.
Until recently, it was "run by the prime minister's wife, who is now being replaced by [Chip Goodyear] the former CEO of Australian mining company BHP. So, no stone is [being] left unturned to improve profitability of all the state owned businesses, Singapore Airlines included."
The Vancouver cut is "very sad news for me personally, as I am a frequent user of that connection," said Hedrick-Wong. He will switch over to Cathay Pacific Airways and travel via its home base in Hong Kong. Others plan to do the same when making travel plans to India, said Gaba.
There are definitely a number of other options via airlines that go through Taipei and even Frankfurt, "but Singapore used to be our gateway to Southeast Asia and South Asia," the same way Hong Kong serves mainland China, said Gaba. "It won't be the case anymore."
The Singapore-Vancouver flight picked up as much as 40 per cent of its passengers each way on a stopover in Seoul, Korea, according to Andrew Budiman, Vancouver-based vice-president Canada at Singapore Airlines.
Unfortunately, this is another Asian market that has been particularly hard hit, according to The Economist. It recently specifically singled out both Singapore and Korea in a roundup of the region's worst woes, saying that "in the fourth quarter of 2008, real GDP fell by an annualized rate of 21 per cent in South Korea and 17 per cent in Singapore."
It pointed out that: "South Korea is an exception to the rule of Asian prudence. Its households' debt amounts to 150 per cent of disposable income, even higher than in America. The banking system, which borrowed heavily abroad to finance a surge in domestic lending, has also been badly hit by the global credit crunch, making it harder for firms to finance investment."
Now, following the Vancouver announcement, Singapore Airlines said last week that it plans to cut capacity even further by 11 per cent from the preceding 12 months. So far, it hasn't said exactly which other destinations will go or be reduced.
There is a global slowdown, but the outlook definitely seems more dire for Asia-Pacific airlines. So far, at least, international passenger numbers have dropped more steeply for Asia-Pacific carriers than their counterparts.
For December 2008, Asia-Pacific airlines recorded a 9.7-per-cent decline in traffic compared to just 2.7 per cent for European and 4.3 per cent for North American airlines. Asia Pacific carriers account for 45 per cent of the world's cargo traffic and again, they led declines here, though more modestly. Singapore Airlines said its own cargo numbers have dropped over 20 per cent.
At Cathay Pacific Airways, which expects to pick up some incremental traffic from Singapore Airlines' leaving Vancouver, spokeswoman Jennifer Pearson said: "You never like to see it happen. The market conditions are difficult. There is no question of this [because of] the worldwide economy we are facing at the minute.
"We have seen a softening in our business in first class travel, but the economy class is holding up quite well. We have less flights than last year. We had three flights a day; we now have two. We are very competitive right now.
"That is the name of the game."
Asia-Pacific airlines lead declines
- Decline in December 2008 international passenger traffic numbers for:
Asia Pacific airlines
-9.7%
European airlines:
-2.7%
North American airlines:
-4.3%
- Decline in December 2008 international cargo numbers for:
Asia Pacific airlines, which move
45 per cent of world total:
-26%
European airlines:
-21%
North American airlines:
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I think the only combi aircraft SQ ever had was a Big Top 747-300 way back. I don't remember them having any other combi planes in their fleet.Originally posted by dnllam View PostComment
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There goes my chance of taking SQ to YVR
Btw, did SQ used to fly SIN-Torronto?
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