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  • Prediction: Some 777s to get New Business Class

    I predict that SQ will refit some or all of 9V-SQI through 9V-SQN, 9V-SRF through 9V-SRQ, 9V-SVA through 9V-SVO, and 9V-SYF through 9V-SYL with the new seats from the 777-300ER. 9V-SYF through 9V-SYL will probably get the same configuration as the 777-300ERs. I guess the announcement may come in September.

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    Originally posted by zvezda View Post
    I predict that SQ will refit some or all of 9V-SQI through 9V-SQN, 9V-SRF through 9V-SRQ, 9V-SVA through 9V-SVO, and 9V-SYF through 9V-SYL with the new seats from the 777-300ER. 9V-SYF through 9V-SYL will probably get the same configuration as the 777-300ERs. I guess the announcement may come in September.

    Interesting. Don't know how many J will fit into the 772, but on the 300's - to have the same F and J config but same Y config means an 8/42/265 .. which is a pretty steep drop from 18/49/265.

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    • #3
      My prediction is that the SVx series will get the new Business Class, while the AVOD SQx/SRx/SYx will get the "new" regional Business Class that someone mentioned over teh tarik

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      • #4
        Originally posted by SQflyergirl View Post
        Interesting. Don't know how many J will fit into the 772, but on the 300's - to have the same F and J config but same Y config means an 8/42/265 .. which is a pretty steep drop from 18/49/265.
        Between doors 1 and 2 of the 777-200ER, SQ can fit five rows of four seats. Of course, it's possible to fit more aft of door 2.

        The 777-300 would have 228 not 265 Y seats.

        Originally posted by Savage25 View Post
        My prediction is that the SVx series will get the new Business Class, while the AVOD SQx/SRx/SYx will get the "new" regional Business Class that someone mentioned over teh tarik
        Which new regional business class? It appears from the RFPs that the A330-300s and the 787-9s will get different business class seats.

        Any, SQ have more of a shortage of long-haul aircraft than regional aircraft. Capacity to Europe is in shortest supply.

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        • #5
          Before we get all excited with this news, I'd always defer to Proffy in my SIM class "Quote the source in which you are drawing your statement from". Otherwise all these will all but become senseless generalization.

          Can TS provide some source for backup? Or if this is something SQ is supposed to keep hush hush, can the mods advise if this is talkable on the board?
          Last edited by SINFJ; 6 July 2008, 11:57 PM. Reason: spelling error

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          • #6
            Originally posted by zvezda View Post
            I predict that SQ will refit some or all of 9V-SQI through 9V-SQN, 9V-SRF through 9V-SRQ, 9V-SVA through 9V-SVO, and 9V-SYF through 9V-SYL with the new seats from the 777-300ER. 9V-SYF through 9V-SYL will probably get the same configuration as the 777-300ERs. I guess the announcement may come in September.
            dropping from 2-3-2/2-2-2 to 1-2-1. is this commercially viable?

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            • #7
              Originally posted by SINFJ View Post
              Before we get all excited with this news, I'd always defer to Proffy in my SIM class "Quote the source in which you are drawing your statement from". Otherwise all these will all but become senseless generalization.

              Can TS provide some source for backup? Or if this is something SQ is supposed to keep hush hush, can the mods advise if this is talkable on the board?
              This topic is after all about Singapore Airlines so i don't see a point why this should not be discussed. And zvezda also said it is a prediction so it may not be true.



              So if SQ does this won't that mean the prices for Business Class will increase?
              BOEING. Forever New Frontiers

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              • #8
                Originally posted by SINFJ View Post
                can the mods advise if this is talkable on the board?
                My personal opinion is yes, why not? Zvezda makes it clear that it is purely speculative in nature.

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                • #9
                  Just to make it clear, this speculation is not based on any inside information that I may or may not have.

                  Of the four subfleets I mentioned above, I think the most likely to be reconfigured with the new business class would be 9V-SVA through 9V-SVO and 9V-SYF through 9V-SYL.

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                  • #10
                    My Christmas wish list:

                    New Regional Business Class will be improved Spacebed. More cushion. True Lie flat seat.

                    They will replace 77W/A380 J seats. Well documented cons in various forums I concur with.

                    However, I feel SQ branding seems to overcome all reservations. Reminds me of BMW branding. Ugly cars, hopeless iDrive but selling like hot cakes anyway. I just bought one!

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by 9V-SIA View Post
                      My Christmas wish list:

                      New Regional Business Class will be improved Spacebed. More cushion. True Lie flat seat.

                      They will replace 77W/A380 J seats. Well documented cons in various forums I concur with.

                      However, I feel SQ branding seems to overcome all reservations. Reminds me of BMW branding. Ugly cars, hopeless iDrive but selling like hot cakes anyway. I just bought one!

                      did you buy the turtle (aka 1-series)?

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by SINFJ View Post
                        did you buy the turtle (aka 1-series)?
                        335 coupe

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by 9V-SIA View Post
                          My Christmas wish list:

                          New Regional Business Class will be improved Spacebed. More cushion. True Lie flat seat.

                          They will replace 77W/A380 J seats. Well documented cons in various forums I concur with.

                          However, I feel SQ branding seems to overcome all reservations. Reminds me of BMW branding. Ugly cars, hopeless iDrive but selling like hot cakes anyway. I just bought one!
                          I am surprised you dislike SQ new business class seats. Having been on these seats for so many times, I feel that Spacebed is just too narrow for me and does not offer the same privacy as the new seats.

                          These new seats not perfect (I think SQ needs to improve the padding for the sleeping area) but I do feel that they are the best in the industry for now. Well, maybe I am a big person so I do love those wide seats which I feel are very comfortable.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by SINFJ View Post
                            dropping from 2-3-2/2-2-2 to 1-2-1. is this commercially viable?
                            It can be, if pax are willing to pay more.

                            I paid usd 6,700 (in Jan '08) for my ICN-ATH J rtn in Sept '08 on the 777-200ER. If what zvezda predicts comes true, I have no doubt that this price will increase for future travels. I'd dare to say a 20% increase is certainly possible.

                            Currently there are 30 SpaceBeds on this bird. Changing to 1-2-1 (new J product), means that now 20 people will have to bring SQ the revenue that 30 people used to do so far, if not more.

                            What worries me most is that since I would love to see the new product installed ino the 772ER, I am one of those who are willing to pay more...

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by N_Architect View Post
                              It can be, if pax are willing to pay more.

                              I paid usd 6,700 (in Jan '08) for my ICN-ATH J rtn in Sept '08 on the 777-200ER. If what zvezda predicts comes true, I have no doubt that this price will increase for future travels. I'd dare to say a 20% increase is certainly possible.

                              Currently there are 30 SpaceBeds on this bird. Changing to 1-2-1 (new J product), means that now 20 people will have to bring SQ the revenue that 30 people used to do so far, if not more.

                              What worries me most is that since I would love to see the new product installed ino the 772ER, I am one of those who are willing to pay more...
                              Agreed that price will increase with the new configurations. But it may not be worth while for me on a short flight if fitted on regional flights.

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