No seats available on SQ 28

[soak01]

The plot thickens........

When I tried booking Y using "singaporeair":
5 Dec ADL/SIN
6 Dec SIN/LAX
10 Jan YVR/SIN
15 Jan SIN/ADL

contrary to the schedules I get the "there was no result for the search criteria" error message but if I substitute SFO for LAX (not that I want to go to SFO), i.e.

5 Dec ADL/SIN
6 Dec SIN/SFO
10 Jan YVR/SIN
15 Jan SIN/ADL

I get an itinerary and price of $AUD 2517.

Even if I substitute ADL with SYD still no luck. I don't think its a "singaporeair" problem with fares originating ex-AUS as I could book flights to SFO (which would still need an overnight in SIN due to the arrival time of the ADL flight), just not LAX.

SQ will always be my first choice (love the stopover on the way home) but on this occassion maybe NZ ADL/AKL/LAX~YVR/AKL/ADL with no overnight enroute is looking more reliable.

Surely SQ aren't contemplating reducing capacity to just the SQ12 between SIN and LAX for Y? (Although I'm sure its one way of getting 100% capacity on the route)

[soak01]

SQ will always be my first choice (love the stopover on the way home) but on this occassion maybe NZ ADL/AKL/LAX~YVR/AKL/ADL with no overnight enroute is looking more reliable.

Maybe not, I just checked and the NZ fare is nearly an extra $AUD800 per person. With 3 of us travelling I think I'll stick with SQ and hope that bookings between SIN/LAX finally open up even if it is on SQ12.

[zvezda]

How many seats are there in new all business SQ37/38?

The new all business class configuration of the A340-500s will have 100 seats.

[TerryK]

Call SQ TPE but they have no further information other than no seats are available after 01-May-08 for TPE-LAX-TPE. We knew that. They still allow waitlisting so there is hope that the flight will stay. I hope taipeiflyer can provide inside information.

[vincent0720]

SQ stops selling SQ27/28 tickets for about a week
This is very interesting. I have an existing SQ27 booking in the end of May and see no changes or anything on the reservation.
where is our taipeiflyer?
hope taipeiflyer can give some updates ^^

[taipeiflyer]

the tpe office is being VERY tight-lipped. I directly asked my pps coordinator if the tpe-lax route was gonna be cancelled, and the only answer i received was: "we haven't received any information from Head Office." this is not very good news in my opinion, as they have previously always been very sure of the route's continuation. they seem rather frustrated with the lack of communication from the head office, and the constant tinkering with the route. so far, it looks like RIP.

[HUGE AL]

I can't believe taipeiflyer is going to get routed through SIN.

[zvezda]

I can't believe taipeiflyer is going to get routed through SIN.

NH to NRT and then SQ NRT-LAX would be, in my opinion, better than routing through SIN, but I realize some here will disagree. <zvezda is donning his nomex suit>

[taipeiflyer]

NH to NRT and then SQ NRT-LAX would be, in my opinion, better than routing through SIN, but I realize some here will disagree. <zvezda is donning his nomex suit>

i agree with you zvezda. i will probably start going NH thru narita.

[TerryK]

the tpe office is being VERY tight-lipped. I directly asked my pps coordinator if the tpe-lax route was gonna be cancelled, and the only answer i received was: "we haven't received any information from Head Office." this is not very good news in my opinion, as they have previously always been very sure of the route's continuation. they seem rather frustrated with the lack of communication from the head office, and the constant tinkering with the route. so far, it looks like RIP.

That's really sad news, although unconfirmed yet.

It seems to me that a preliminary decision was made to cancel it, but it is not finalized because of some internal objections. The top management will have a final say. There is still hope, although odds are not good.

One can also fly TPE-(CX)-HKG-SFO, keeping in mind HKG-SFO will likely see the A380 soon . Although then it is more convenient to fly CX all the way.

[9V-SPL]

http://www.airliners.net/discussions....main/3901248/

I think they are really cancelling the TPE-LAX sector.

[RJA]

I have also heard rumours that the TPE/LAX route may be closed. I would love to know what's the story behind this route in more recent times i.e. within the last year.

I also wonder where will SQ redeploy those 772ERs? Additional frequencies to Europe perhaps?

[milehighj]

http://www.airliners.net/discussions....main/3901248/

I think they are really cancelling the TPE-LAX sector.

Well that thread references "another website", which is probably either FT or SQT... So this could all be the blind leading the blind, though unlikely...

It was mentioned in that thread that SIN-TPE-LAX has been around for 10 years. Actually much longer - at least back till the mid-1980s. I remember when SQ2 (SIN-HKG-HNL-SFO) and SQ6 (SIN-TPE-HNL-LAX) were flown by Big Top 743s and used to rendezvous in HNL, allowing HKG pax to transfer to the LAX flight, and TPE pax to transfer to the SFO flight.

I received my first ever op-up (J->F) on HNL-LAX travelling with my family back around 1985...

[taipeiflyer]

I have also heard rumours that the TPE/LAX route may be closed. I would love to know what's the story behind this route in more recent times i.e. within the last year.

I also wonder where will SQ redeploy those 772ERs? Additional frequencies to Europe perhaps?

this route has been consistently full in J. J would fill up sometimes well over a month in advance, and since my flights are usually booked sorta last-minute, i would frequently not clear until the day of in several instances. however, in F, there was not the same demand after the 77W was introduced in july. When the 77W was introduced on the route, i would fly F, and it would usually be about half-full, although there were a couple times that it was full in F as well. The biggest negative to SQ headquarters is not the filling of the plane, but the yield. The TPE-LAX route is less than half the cost of the HKG-SFO route, despite being almost equal in distance. Taiwan's carriers, Eva and the state-subsidized China Airlines, charge fairly low fares, and therefore SQ cannot substantially increase their fares to be commensurate with their other long-haul routes, and have to keep them more in line with the Taiwan carriers. As a result, the yields are low, and they would rather just axe the route. I definitely know they are not losing money on the route, they are just not making a killing like they are on other routes. I am very sad.

[Singapore_Air]

As a result, the yields are low, and they would rather just axe the route. I definitely know they are not losing money on the route, they are just not making a killing like they are on other routes.

Indeed, sad, but very very very true.