A380 - Master Thread

[MainlyMiles]

Full details in the SIA News Update:

https://www.singaporeair.com/saar5/p...r-q2fy2021.pdf

19 other aircraft include:

• 4 Boeing 777-200 / -200ERs
• 4 Boeing 777-300s (non-ERs)
• 9 Airbus A320s
• 2 Airbus A319s

Seems like remaining MI A320s and the TR ones in ASP are for the chop. The others are fairly logical.

[9V-SPL]

Singapore Airlines is permanently retiring 7 A380s along with other older aircraft according to MainlyMiles.

https://mainlymiles.com/2020/11/06/s...-billion-loss/

[reddevil0728]

If the seats, etc, have already been paid for and delivered and are sitting in containers, the marginal cost of installing them might not be that high (given the precision nature of the work, a lot of the people involved may not be contract staff so have to be paid anyway). So if there is some chance that they will fly, management may want to get the refurbishment done.

The A380s will definitely fly again and the only question is when. SIA is not going to retire all its 19 A380s just like that considering that 5 of the A380s are very new. At the most SIA will need to retire a few of its older aircrafts which are over 10 years old.

it’s a speculation after all. As mentioned, things are fluid.

[flyguy]

The A380s will definitely fly again and the only question is when. SIA is not going to retire all its 19 A380s just like that considering that 5 of the A380s are very new. At the most SIA will need to retire a few of its older aircrafts which are over 10 years old.

[259850]

Any refurb is of no use if they do decide to just cease flying a380 forever

If the seats, etc, have already been paid for and delivered and are sitting in containers, the marginal cost of installing them might not be that high (given the precision nature of the work, a lot of the people involved may not be contract staff so have to be paid anyway). So if there is some chance that they will fly, management may want to get the refurbishment done.

[Handiman]

Any refurb is of no use if they do decide to just cease flying a380 forever

maybe the can come out an idea of refurbishing them into hotel or meeting venue available for public

[FN-GM]

Why would they do that, when they have not yet decided if the A380s will ever return

Do we have evidence to say they haven't decided?

[reddevil0728]

As mentioned earlier, do believe that SIA will not remove the entire A380 aircrafts. Although they may nor fly till mid-2021 or later but will definitely take to the skies.
The other thing is that SIA needs to refurbished some of its A380s to the ver 3 as it can seat 471 passengers as the other 2 versions carry much less especially the ver 2 with only 379 passengers. Perhaps SIA can consider a 2 class A380 which can carry more - like Emirates which can carry 600 pax.

things are still very fluid. anything can happen tbh.

[flyguy]

As mentioned earlier, do believe that SIA will not remove the entire A380 aircrafts. Although they may nor fly till mid-2021 or later but will definitely take to the skies.
The other thing is that SIA needs to refurbished some of its A380s to the ver 3 as it can seat 471 passengers as the other 2 versions carry much less especially the ver 2 with only 379 passengers. Perhaps SIA can consider a 2 class A380 which can carry more - like Emirates which can carry 600 pax.

[reddevil0728]

Hope this is true as have no news on this. And with these 2 refurbished, there would be 10 version 3 A380s.

Any refurb is of no use if they do decide to just cease flying a380 forever

[flyguy]

9V-SKN has completed refurbishment during this downturn. I believe they are working on 9V-SKM now, correct me if I am wrong.

Hope this is true as have no news on this. And with these 2 refurbished, there would be 10 version 3 A380s.

[flyguy]

Why would they do that, when they have not yet decided if the A380s will ever return

Surely SIA's A380s will return to the skies as doubt SQ will write off its 19 A380s as it was very costly to buy the planes in the first place, and there's is no secondhand value for the A380s except for scrapping and spares.
What SQ will likely do is to reduce a few A380s and put the older A380s in retirement/storage.

[Jumbojet Lover]

SIA could have use this downturn and refit and reconfigure at least 2 A380s to the current version 3 standard, as these A380s are all grounded since last april and it takes about 6 months to refit one aircraft.

Those are costly to undertake, at a time when there is marginal revenue being generated and steps are being taken to reduce cash burn...

[Not You]

SIA could have use this downturn and refit and reconfigure at least 2 A380s to the current version 3 standard, as these A380s are all grounded since last april and it takes about 6 months to refit one aircraft.

9V-SKN has completed refurbishment during this downturn. I believe they are working on 9V-SKM now, correct me if I am wrong.

[FlyBoy]

Why would they do that, when they have not yet decided if the A380s will ever return