A380 - Master Thread

[a340-313x]

The wing issue isn't actually that big a deal as any corrective action is covered by Airbus. I suspect these four are the leased ones - sold and leased back by SIA to raise capital in FY2010/11 (1), 2011/12 (1) and 2012/13 (2).

One V1 (i.e. 1 of SKF-K) and three V2s (i.e. 3 of SKL-R) seems to be the consensus on how this group is made up, but I have no idea which specific registrations.

If that's the pattern flying out on Saturday night though, I think we have our answer. They'll then probably sit out their time in ASP before being returned to lessors.

It does appear one of the leased birds is already refitted though... (if our information is correct that is)

[MainlyMiles]

Do we know the departure timings?

23:45 Sat night (first Scoot A320) to 01:30 Sun morning (last SQ A380).

[MainlyMiles]

Wonder if these 4 A380s are the oldest and earlier built which likely have wing issues and needed some reworking as per Airbus directive. In any case, would doubt these oldest planes will be refitted even before the Covid19 happened.

The wing issue isn't actually that big a deal as any corrective action is covered by Airbus. I suspect these four are the leased ones - sold and leased back by SIA to raise capital in FY2010/11 (1), 2011/12 (1) and 2012/13 (2).

One V1 (i.e. 1 of SKF-K) and three V2s (i.e. 3 of SKL-R) seems to be the consensus on how this group is made up, but I have no idea which specific registrations.

If that's the pattern flying out on Saturday night though, I think we have our answer. They'll then probably sit out their time in ASP before being returned to lessors.

[SQ380]

SQ sending 4 A380s to Alice Springs on Saturday.

Do we know the departure timings?

[flyguy]

Wonder if these 4 A380s are the oldest and earlier built which likely have wing issues and needed some reworking as per Airbus directive. In any case, would doubt these oldest planes will be refitted even before the Covid19 happened.

[MainlyMiles]

SQ sending 4 A380s to Alice Springs on Saturday.

Plus two more Scoot A320s - TAN and TAQ

[oliverdave]

SQ sending 4 A380s to Alice Springs on Saturday.

[flyguy]

All Cabin Refits have been stop. SIA have stopped all Heavy Maintenance Check at the moment. Rumour is that this might be end of the fleet in SQ. A few aircraft have been parked at the military base in Changi for short term storage.

If that is the case, then SQ would have only 3 refitted A380s and together with the 5 new A380s, there will be only 8 ver 3 A380s.

[FN-GM]

all the others are taking at least 6 months it seems.

The others being refitted were involved in an R&D project that is to streamline the refit process so thats why they took a considerable amount of time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=251WGe1MiLk

SIA have stopped all Heavy Maintenance Check at the moment.

It isn't SQ who are refitting them they have contracted it out to Airbus and are most probably bound to that contract.

[flyguy]

If some of the A380s are to be retired, it should be the earlier 4 A380s as they do have AD directives to check the wings due to cracking. But in general, other airlines have started or planned to retire their A380s even before this COVID19, like Air France and Lufthansa and even Emirates have retired a few. And after this Covid19 incident, it will take some time for airlines to recover and regain to their preious schedules. But this will take some months to achieve. And its very likely the A380s with airlines will be the last to take to the skies and few airlines may even consider retiring them early due to higher costs of operation.

[ell3]

All Cabin Refits have been stop. SIA have stopped all Heavy Maintenance Check at the moment. Rumour is that this might be end of the fleet in SQ. A few aircraft have been parked at the military base in Changi for short term storage.

What do you mean by “end of the fleet in SQ”?

[banx007]

All Cabin Refits have been stop. SIA have stopped all Heavy Maintenance Check at the moment. Rumour is that this might be end of the fleet in SQ. A few aircraft have been parked at the military base in Changi for short term storage.

[wlgspotter]

There was a typo in my post that made it very incorrect!!

I had SKP listed twice. The incorrect listing you quoted was meant to have read SKN. My apologies!

So now it is clear- SKP definitely wasn't undergoing a refit if it can be back in the skies 6 weeks after its last flight and all the others are taking at least 6 months it seems. It must still be a ver. 2 layout.

Heh buddy when I first read your original post I must have either just skimped through it or didn't give it much thought... SKP couldn't have last been flown in mid Oct, for we flew back on it SIN-AKL on SQ285 (it was a last minuted sub to V2) at the end of Nov...

Anyway, with the current situation lets hope that these birds won't stay on the ground for too long and will be back in the air sooner rather than later, although personally I do think it might be the last of the fleet to get back in the air unfortunately...

[Spaniard]

There was a typo in my post that made it very incorrect!!

I had SKP listed twice. The incorrect listing you quoted was meant to have read SKN. My apologies!

So now it is clear- SKP definitely wasn't undergoing a refit if it can be back in the skies 6 weeks after its last flight and all the others are taking at least 6 months it seems. It must still be a ver. 2 layout.

No worries at all! I used to keep a note with a log of last flights but somehow had deleted it so didn’t have a chance to double check. We’ll have to keep our hopes and eyes on SKN.

On a related note, with the current situation it would be interesting to see if there is a change in strategy, perhaps accelerating refits of the later frames and planning retirement of the earlier ones, preparing for an eventual and hopefully quick recovery in demand. Would be a good move to be in the best possible shape!

Hope you are all staying safe 💪🏻

[SQ228]

She’s back on service, do we know if she’s been refitted to V3?

There was a typo in my post that made it very incorrect!!

I had SKP listed twice. The incorrect listing you quoted was meant to have read SKN. My apologies!

So now it is clear- SKP definitely wasn't undergoing a refit if it can be back in the skies 6 weeks after its last flight and all the others are taking at least 6 months it seems. It must still be a ver. 2 layout.