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  • #16
    Originally posted by Metropolitan Airlines View Post
    I suspect the reconfiguration of B777-300ER to include Premium Economy and A380 installing Premium Economy also means there must be 1 - 2 aircrafts now out of action for this exercise.

    But I would also expect there should be some spare A330 and B777-200 that SQ can use it on SQ231 with no problems?
    This is the inherent problem with an A380. They can only be replaced with an A380. I wouldn't want to be the staff member to tell a Suites passenger they've been bumped down to A330 J! Also at the moment my guess is that all flights out of SYD would be fully booked.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by SQ228 View Post
      This is the inherent problem with an A380. They can only be replaced with an A380. I wouldn't want to be the staff member to tell a Suites passenger they've been bumped down to A330 J! Also at the moment my guess is that all flights out of SYD would be fully booked.
      Possibly not, but if the passenger catching F could also be the passenger in a hurry, such as en route to an important business meeting the next morning. In that case I suppose SQ will also provide an option to refund airfare to the F passenger for a J seat?

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      • #18
        Just happen to read news from Detik.com:

        http://news.detik.com/berita/2963452...saat-ditangkap

        Ilham has threaten thru his Twitter account sent to @Singaporeair, that a bomb is targeted to an SQ flight, no detail on the news but the incident has caused a delay of Airbus 380 flight to Sydney told Detik.com

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        • #19
          SQ 222 was delayed by several hours again today (8 July), but this time tarmac delay. Passengers were onboard for several hours. I am not sure whether the flight has departed or not, but Google's tracker shows it has progressed, when it actually never took off. What is happening?

          Just checked, and SQ222 today is actually operated by 9V-SKE (door seal aircraft involved in 2 incidents). Technical, perhaps?
          Last edited by SQ747; 8 July 2015, 09:51 PM.
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          Travel safe,
          And have a pleasant journey.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by SilverKrisSRG View Post
            Just happen to read news from Detik.com:

            http://news.detik.com/berita/2963452...saat-ditangkap

            Ilham has threaten thru his Twitter account sent to @Singaporeair, that a bomb is targeted to an SQ flight, no detail on the news but the incident has caused a delay of Airbus 380 flight to Sydney told Detik.com
            Any further news on this? CNA: http://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/...t/1969186.html

            Apparently the threat was issued on July 1, but for which date was it referring to? The last SQ221 delay was July 3. And today's?
            Last edited by SQ747; 8 July 2015, 09:51 PM.
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            Travel safe,
            And have a pleasant journey.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by SQ747 View Post
              SQ 222 was delayed by several hours again today (8 July), but this time tarmac delay. Passengers were onboard for several hours. I am not sure whether the flight has departed or not, but Google's tracker shows it has progressed, when it actually never took off. What is happening?

              Just checked, and SQ222 today is actually operated by 9V-SKE (door seal aircraft involved in 2 incidents). Technical, perhaps?
              Re-numbering of SQ222 (8 July) to SQ9222 (9 July)



              Flight SQ222 which was due to depart Sydney for Singapore on 8 July 2015 but delayed due to technical reasons is now re-numbered to SQ9222, with a revised estimated departure timing of 1300hrs on 9 July 2015 (local time).

              Singapore Airlines apologises for any inconvenience caused.

              Source: http://beta.singaporeair.com/jsp/cms...numbering.jsp#
              Apparently another A380 go tech and decided to delay until the next day, after SQ211 and SQ232 on the 9th of July.

              I wonder would SQ staff attempt to help customers to change flight, especially premium passengers and those on Flexi/Flexi Saver ticket, considering there are 3 flights before the re-scheduled SQ9222.

              Finally, I hope SQ can check their A380s thoroughly and provide adequate maintenance if possible. I think I have heard too many A380 delays quite recently. And as 9V-SSF now delivered, why not commence SQ252 earlier so passengers on the affected flight can get onto a more reliable plane?

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Metropolitan Airlines View Post
                Finally, I hope SQ can check their A380s thoroughly and provide adequate maintenance if possible. I think I have heard too many A380 delays quite recently. And as 9V-SSF now delivered, why not commence SQ252 earlier so passengers on the affected flight can get onto a more reliable plane?
                The issue is not so much maintenance as how close to the limit they are pushing them to sell more seats during the holiday peak season. I noticed today they have also increased SQ306/5 to A380 on selected flights as well, combined with all their normal flights as well as servicing SQ231/222 and SQ228/7. A plane can get a fault at any time, but we expect airlines like SQ to have fleet capacity to cover such incidents.

                Thye've received new A330s but other pressures have also arisen, such as the old non-refit 772ER set (SVF/H/O) that until recently were covering a lot of BKK flights for example. They are now on seasonal extra long-hauls to MXP and ATH and many refitted 772ERs are also covering extra FCO and IST flights which makes them less available for short-hauls.

                SQ252 being added in early is a good idea, only that getting a landing slot at SYD at short notice during nationwide school holidays could be the tricky part

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                • #23
                  What's the protocol for extended tarmac delays? I know there is a Tarmac Delay Contingency Plan for flights in the US, where passengers are permitted to deplane after 4 hours onboard, but does this extend elsewhere with SQ? The social media outcries over this recent delay were incredible! People complaining of being onboard for 6-7 hours, with 2 attempted take-offs and engine failures.
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                  • #24
                    I saw on Facebook that some passengers were simply put into a hotel with Dinner and Breakfast and transfer provided.

                    If you have a connecting flight, you will need to rebook for another service.

                    On the other hand I acknowledge SQ 2 and SQ 868 were delayed for more than 12 hours yesterday due to Typhoon, also if you are catching SQ to Shanghai tomorrow, forget your trip as they have cancelled all services due to typhoon.

                    I hope passengers will be able to get accommodation and proper treatment.

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                    • #25
                      Would the Indonesian ash cloud also be causing any issues for SQ? It certainly is for VA and JQ but they come from a different direction.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by SilverKrisSRG View Post
                        Just happen to read news from Detik.com:

                        http://news.detik.com/berita/2963452...saat-ditangkap

                        Ilham has threaten thru his Twitter account sent to @Singaporeair, that a bomb is targeted to an SQ flight, no detail on the news but the incident has caused a delay of Airbus 380 flight to Sydney told Detik.com
                        The link below provides an account of the entire tweet that the Indonesian student (an aviation fanatic) posted on July 1st, 2015, pertaining to a bomb threat to a Sydney bound flight that same evening. SQ221 departing at 2015hrs was the target.

                        The tweets were sent around 1511hrs IDT / 1611hrs SGT. What's puzzling to me is how did this Indonesian student know that the SG50 themed aircraft (9V-SKI) was scheduled to operate that route? Flight Aware does not provide such information till close to flight departure.....

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by SQ380 View Post
                          The link below provides an account of the entire tweet that the Indonesian student (an aviation fanatic) posted on July 1st, 2015, pertaining to a bomb threat to a Sydney bound flight that same evening. SQ221 departing at 2015hrs was the target.

                          The tweets were sent around 1511hrs IDT / 1611hrs SGT. What's puzzling to me is how did this Indonesian student know that the SG50 themed aircraft (9V-SKI) was scheduled to operate that route? Flight Aware does not provide such information till close to flight departure.....
                          www.icargo.net will usually give the information at least 3-4 hours before departure. It's not always that accurate if there has been a late gate change or equipment swap though, but it must be getting it's information from a feed somewhere that's third-party accessible.

                          The other thing that I notice about SQ221 is that the same plane tends to work the flight for a number of days in a row. icargo.net would list the inbound SQ232 and give a corresponding departure flight which may well have been SQ221. You could predict it with a fair degree of accuracy on this particular flight I reckon. Obviously a degree of luck comes in to play.

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