SIA lives under a rock: HK has NO protest

[SQ228]

These situations are a problem when it comes to travel insurance. The majority of insurers in Australia have a knife-edge style approach. If the government advisory says don't go and you do, it voids your policy. If the government advisory says it's ok to go but be careful, then you have to, otherwise it voids your policy.

I know a line always has to be drawn in the sand, but it leaves travellers in the hands of a couple of government bureaucrats on a daily basis, waiting for a new update.

In this case, the Australian Department of Foreign Affairs & Trade says:
"Pro-democracy protesters continue to gather in the Central and Admiralty districts of Hong Kong island, with smaller numbers gathered in Causeway Bay (Hong Kong island) and in Mongkok on the Kowloon peninsula. Violent clashes have occurred between protesters and others opposed to the protests. Disruption to traffic and public transport continues in affected areas. The MTR underground transport system continues to operate. We recommend that Australians find alternative routes through the city, avoid large demonstrations and public gatherings, and monitor local media to keep abreast of latest developments."

They then go on to give it the lowest danger rating of all, level with New Zealand or Switzerland.

[HUGE AL]

FINALLY!


I fail to see how the TAME scattered HK protests is reason to cancel/change a ticket.

[cscs1956]

FINALLY!


I fail to see how the TAME scattered HK protests is reason to cancel/change a ticket.

Many years back, many people failed to "predict" that the protests can extend to BKK international airport too!

[HUGE AL]

Many years back, many people failed to "predict" that the protests can extend to BKK international airport too!

He's back!

I was going to add a sentence about BKK, but figured SOMEBODY would wrongly bring up the comparison.

The two are completely different. How many coups has China had?

[SQGamespeed]

He's back!

I was going to add a sentence about BKK, but figured SOMEBODY would wrongly bring up the comparison.

The two are completely different. How many coups has China had?

I Agree HUGE AL. They are completely different indeed. IIRC in some old thread (I discovered this forum long before I joined) he thought of BKK as being "well designed" or "efficient", only for the world to see some of that "efficiency" to be tested several times by Yellow Shirts...

As for HK, I was expecting him to make a direct comparison between Changi and HKIA, with particularly glowing opinions of the latter.

[cscs1956]

He's back!

I was going to add a sentence about BKK, but figured SOMEBODY would wrongly bring up the comparison.

The two are completely different. How many coups has China had?

Then use Jun 4th to compare. Don't think China expect that to happen too at that time.

[SQGamespeed]

Then use Jun 4th to compare. Don't think China expect that to happen too at that time.

What's your point?

There is hardly a comparison between then and now. As much as Beijing disapproves of the HK protests, it has MUCH more at stake today than in 1989. Back then, it was a relatively modest player in world trade rather than being the biggest(?) in the world, and it's GDP was only about 5-7% of today. With these realities, how easy do you think it is to not suffer consequences to your economy?

Furthermore, your point about China not expecting this doesn't hold much water I'm afraid. Google information about the Sino-British Joint Declaration; China would have know full well of the implications of HK's handover. This isn't a political forum so won't go into details.

If you're trying to make a comparison between this and Thailand, that's a completely different issue altogether, as I mentioned before.

Hope that's easy for you to follow, though I admit we need your sense of humor for this thread.

[HUGE AL]

Then use Jun 4th to compare.

Coup now equals Protest.

...we need your sense of humor for this thread.

Let's not restrict it to only this thread!

[Jimmyl]

FINALLY!


I fail to see how the TAME scattered HK protests is reason to cancel/change a ticket.

It's not about reason to cancel/change a ticket. It's the PURE IGNORANCE of an INTERNATIONAL Airlines to even know that HK has protests!

It would have been perfectly fine for SIA to say MFA did not say "don't go" so the flight will proceed. SIA response was "NO ONGOING PROTEST IN HK"

How many working adults are ignorant of HK protest??!!??

[MAN Flyer]

How many working adults are ignorant of HK protest??!!??

I had no idea there are any protests in Hong Kong. But I'm not working at the moment so that may explain it....

[HUGE AL]

I had no idea there are any protests in Hong Kong. But I'm not working at the moment so that may explain it....

[nuomiz]

The simplest way is of course to follow government's advisory. There are actually many protests going on around the world; my friend just encountered a protest in Greece. However, there are also many protests which are peaceful in nature. Therefore, unless there is an assessment that the protests would endanger the lives of tourists, it's unreasonable to claim refund for every time there is a protest in the destination.

[Jimmyl]

The simplest way is of course to follow government's advisory. There are actually many protests going on around the world; my friend just encountered a protest in Greece. However, there are also many protests which are peaceful in nature. Therefore, unless there is an assessment that the protests would endanger the lives of tourists, it's unreasonable to claim refund for every time there is a protest in the destination.

When was HK ever excluded from travel insurance coverage?
This time it was excluded coverage and still is.
Insurance companies don't exclude any countries just because of protests, they want to make money. In this case, HK is excluded due to severe protest and while SIA sees "NO PROTEST". Someone is very wrong here.

[9V-JKL]

When was HK ever excluded from travel insurance coverage?
This time it was excluded coverage and still is.
Insurance companies don't exclude any countries just because of protests, they want to make money.

I would suggest that you read the policy wording of ANY travel insurance policy especially on the general exclusion clause, travel cancellation, postponement.
Sure they don't usually specify but try making a claim when it happens... NTUC is not nicknamed No Trouble Until Claim for nothing...

[Jimmyl]

I would suggest that you read the policy wording of ANY travel insurance policy especially on the general exclusion clause, travel cancellation, postponement.
Sure they don't usually specify but try making a claim when it happens... NTUC is not nicknamed No Trouble Until Claim for nothing...

That's exactly my point.
When MFA highlighted the risks and an insurance company also openly says risky so excluded.

When something happens, and you try to claim will be very difficult.
Yet, our famous airline did not come out of it's rock to take a look

It's a goner, harass children, over-charge Wifi, sell wrong priced ticket...