Rumour: SQ going back to YVR?

[wktan81]

I thought 345 or 747 can operate SIN-YVR nonstop? The distance between SIN-YVR is only 12822 km, Clearly this is within the range of 345 or 747.

SQ have studied SIN-YVR nonstop. The routes requires the performance of an aircraft which they don't have yet: the A350-900.

[9V-SIA]

I thought 345 or 747 can operate SIN-YVR nonstop? The distance between SIN-YVR is only 12822 km, Clearly this is within the range of 345 or 747.

Having the range to reach your destination is one thing.

Making money doing it is another.

eg you may have to carry so little ( money making ) payload to make room for more fuel that it doesn't make economic sense to fly the route

[zvezda]

I thought 345 or 747 can operate SIN-YVR nonstop? The distance between SIN-YVR is only 12822 km, Clearly this is within the range of 345 or 747.

That's right, but the trip costs of either an A340-500 or a JumboJet are higher than the revenue which the operation could earn. SQ need an airliner with both the payload/range performance and much lower trip costs. That's the A350-900.

If we compare the A340-500 and the A350-900 for SIN-YVY-SIN, the A350 can carry a few more passengers, less (but enough) cargo, and costs 35-40% to make the trip. 35-40% lower costs with a few percent lower revenue makes the operation profitable with an A350-900 where it would have been a big money-loser with the A340-500. The JumboJet would be an even bigger money-loser on SIN-YVR because her trip costs are much higher than those of the A340-500 and there is not enough demand on the route to get proportionally more revenue.

[SilverChris]

Will they even have enough 345s for the non stop?

[wsssaero]

Will they even have enough 345s for the non stop?

They don't and never will.

[zvezda]

Will they even have enough 345s for the non stop?

Even if SQ were to put improved 777-300ERs or improved WhaleJets on the SIN-LAX route, it would not be economically viable to fly A340-500s nonstop to YVR. If SQ fly SIN-YVR nonstop within the next decade, it would be with A350-900s. No other SQ aircraft is suited to the route (except perhaps the 787-9, but which SQ plan to configure for regional services).

BTW, I would not be at all surprised if SQ were to take their 787-9s with restricted MTOW and thrust, as they did with 31 of their 777-200ERs (those which SQ refer to as 777-200s).

[SQfanatic]

I was jess kiddin around you guys.

[sealalula]

How about A380 nonstop SIN to YVR
That would be awesome

[Sirium]

Re-instating YVR?

Anyone heard any news if SQ is re-instating the route to YVR?

[MAN Flyer]

Merged with the thread on the same subject ten threads below on the same page....

[SQ_Flyer]

When will SQ return to YVR?



Hello,

Does anyone know when SQ will restart services to Vancouver? The previous service via Seoul was suspended in April 2009, see

http://www.singaporeair.com/mediacen...ws/NE_1109.jsp

Any advice is appreciated.

[MAN Flyer]

and again....

Welcome to SQTalk, SQ_Flyer.

[yvrcnx]

SQ is coming back to Vancouver....?!!!!

I am sorry, I couldn't resist.

[SQfanatic]

If the demand of YVR was good, they should've upguaged it from 77E (777-200ER) to 77W (777-300ER). If I can remember, they were planning to choose whether to phase SQ16/15 out or SQ18/17 out. They both go via ICN with 777s. However, both were doing poorly in terms of loading. If they bring it back, they should use the 77W and look at the loads. I flew back to SFO via ICN on the 77W on the 28th of November, 2010, but loads were quite full. SFO growth is growing. SFO should either add another route with 77W or upguage to A388.

This raises me one point though. There's lots of SFO-India traffic. I have no idea how was YVR-India traffic load.

[SINFJ]

If the demand of YVR was good, they should've upguaged it from 77E (777-200ER) to 77W (777-300ER). If I can remember, they were planning to choose whether to phase SQ16/15 out or SQ18/17 out. They both go via ICN with 777s. However, both were doing poorly in terms of loading. If they bring it back, they should use the 77W and look at the loads. I flew back to SFO via ICN on the 77W on the 28th of November, 2010, but loads were quite full. SFO growth is growing. SFO should either add another route with 77W or upguage to A388.

This raises me one point though. There's lots of SFO-India traffic. I have no idea how was YVR-India traffic load.

The South Asia >>> SFO/YVR traffic is actually diffused between, SIN, HKG and NRT. So while there is actually a large pie, it is actually shared.