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  • A380 Suites – Branding Debacle?

    FYI, interesting article here :
    http://simpliflying.com/2009/singapo...nding-debacle/

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    Recently, I had a very interesting email exchange with Anthony Prakasm, who lives and breathes aviation as much as I do, if not more. The conversation was about Singapore Airlines’ brand strategy for their new First Class Suites on board the A380 and whether that’s succeeded or not. Anthony had some very unique insights into the situation, and I asked him to share his views for SimpliFlying’s readers. I personally think he’s dead on target in his conclusion that SIA missed a trick or two in the execution of a seemingly great brand strategy. What do you think?
    - Shashank
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    Singapore Airlines Suites - A Class Too Far Beyond First
    Singapore Airlines launched the “Singapore Airlines Suites” product in October 2007, in conjunction with the new on-board product launch that came with the A380. Featuring an “unparalleled level of luxury” in the “widest seat in the sky”, and sleeping on a “standalone bed that was not converted from a seat”. The airline promised the Singapore Airlines Suites to be “truly a class that is yours alone”.

    Regular First Class travellers who wished to travel on the SIA Suites soon found that they had to pay in the vicinity of 50% to 60% more for Suites. At the same, time, the number of Krisflyer miles one could accumulate was only 10% more than regular first class, and redemption availability for Suites was completely blocked. All SIA staff, including the most senior of management who were eligible for First Class were deemed ineligible for Suites.

    “You’re Eligible for First Class, but not for a Class Beyond First!”
    In October 2007, Suites for Singapore-London was priced at nearly S$20,000, and Suites for London-Sydney was priced at approximately 10,000 pounds. Several HR departments of companies, including civil service departments in Singapore, issued circulars or directives stating that “Since the Singapore Airlines Suites are a class beyond first, officers who are usually eligible for First Class travel will be ineligible for Suites”. Evidently, HR departments were hard pressed to justify paying 50% more for senior management to take Suites.

    Pushing your Passengers to a Class Beyond First – To Other Airlines
    Using the Sabre Airport Solutions tool it can be learnt that, from Calendar Year 2006, till October 2007, SIA filled an average of 30 out of 36 First seats into London Heathrow each day. But from January to October 2008, SIA filled just 12 out of 36 seats a day to London. A drop of over 60% in just a year is alarming. This can’t be solely blamed on the financial crisis, as Lehman Brothers really failed in September 2008.

    Analysing Emirates’ First Class loads to London, the number of First Class passengers they carried in 2008 compared to 2007 hardly fell, staying at around 40 to 42 a day! Were these SIA’s ex-First Class passengers going over to Emirates?

    Maintaining the Brand Integrity of Suites – Let Them Leave Empty!
    Throughout 2008, as loads in Suites plummeted to London and other A380 destinations, and for whatever reason, SIA refused to cut fares to match their competitors. There is no doubt that the SIA Suites is one of the best First Class products out there, but the 50% price differential to First Class made it difficult for companies and governments, both in Singapore and overseas, to justify purchasing Suites tickets for their very senior employees.

    Great as it may be, the Suites product is exactly the same as the New Longhaul First Class product on SIA. The entire ground experience is the same, with the same check-in facilities, same lounge, same on-board cuisine and same arrival procedures as First Class passengers. It is hard to argue that a standalone bed and a semi-private cabin, or a 33% chance of landing the middle seats that turn into a double-bed is really worth the extra S$9,000 on a flight from Singapore to London.

    SIA Relents Part I – Throw in a Free Stay at the Raffles
    In May this year, SIA announced that passengers flying Suites from London, Paris, Tokyo and Sydney can enjoy a free night’s stay at the Raffles Hotel, with a complimentary chauffeur-driven service to the Raffles from Changi Airport. Still though, it is unlikely that many passengers from London would be willing to pay thousands of pounds extra for Suites, to enjoy a S$750 (320 pound) night stay at the Raffles Hotel.

    SIA Relents Part II – 300% miles for Suites, not just 160%
    In June, SIA announced that Suites passengers would enjoy 300% miles, instead of 160% miles. Perhaps this was SIA’s way of acknowledging that for paying 50% more than First Class, Suites passengers should be entitled to a little more than a 10% mileage bonus.

    Publically available statistics and evidence still point to SIA struggling to fill Suites, while Emirates and Qantas regularly leave London, event today, with the majority of their First Class seats filled.

    Suites – A Class Beyond First or a First Class Branding Debacle?
    The entire experience surrounding SIA’s experience with its Suites branding demonstrates how an idea or a brand that seemed so revolutionary prior to its roll-out, can in reality backfire on a company. In wanting to place a brand premium on the product as “a class beyond first”, together with an expensive 50% price hike compared to regular first class, companies were quick to react to this and banned their staff from travelling in Suites altogether.
    In an environment where companies are trying to cut costs, and where many airlines like Qantas and Emirates offer excellent First Class products in their A380 which include onboard bars and showers, and limousine ground transfers at each end (SIA lacks these), 60% of SIA’s First Class passengers in 2007 have either downgraded to Business Class, or switched to other airlines altogether.

    In the past couple of weeks, “F” Class codes (which represent regular first class, not suites) were loaded onto the SIA inventory system for Suites-operated flights, though their availability is was blocked. For a couple of days in the week of 26 Jul, SIA’s website even returned Suites fares that were priced without a premium to First Class.

    While frequent flyers thought that this reflected SIA’s management finally relenting on their policy with Suites, as of 2 Aug 09, the F fare codes have since been removed, and Singapore-London continues to cost nearly S$20,000.


    After nearly two years of refusing to take any meaningful steps to regain their First Class marketshare on A380-operated routes, one would have thought that it is better to be late than never. Alienating your First Class passengers should be the last thing any premium airline should aim to do, and it is a pity that SIA has done just that.

  • #2
    That is exactly the sentiments I have why passengers shy away from SQ Suite class. No difference except for the seat and SGD 9,000 more in fare over standard first class. One thing I don't understand is the SQ Corporate inertia to enhance the suite experiences including limousine service, higher standard F&B, buggy service (not just on an adhoc one), special PJs, enhanced toiletries set etc..It does not cost a lot compared to the ticket price. Raffles Hotel are only applicable to foreigners too and not residents.

    The other effect is that the previously loyal first class passenger may decide to terminate the previously wonderful relationship long term wise. With time it will get worse.
    Last edited by LionCity; 6 August 2009, 06:04 PM.

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    • #3
      interesting article, agreed with all the points, marketing suites "A Class beyond First" and charging crazy amount of surcharge is not working, and SQ management been doing this for 2 years now.

      If not with the current "mistake" loading F on the A380 I wont flying in R, they difference is just crazy 10K AUD compared to 5K AUD flying "normal" F

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      • #4
        After reading your post, I did dummy F booking SIN-LHR return on SQ website and got $12,608 all in.

        But I agree with all the points raised.

        I know 2 friends that have been told by their companies to fly any airline except SQ!

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        • #5
          Interesting topic. Thanks Dickson.

          Originally posted by 9V-SIA View Post
          I know 2 friends that have been told by their companies to fly any airline except SQ!
          Is Netjets considered an airline?

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          • #6
            Originally posted by 9V-JKL View Post
            Interesting topic. Thanks Dickson.


            Is Netjets considered an airline?
            From my experience Netjets is usually for sports, private and personalities more than top execs. Folks who value exclusivity more than flexibility.

            Most large companies maintain their own plane, or private planes - since they need ultimate flexibility and security. Netjets can't match this. It is also common for Execs who made it big through IPOs to have their own jets and bill back business usage. This is mainly because they want to use the plane privately as well - for their families. It is rare for a comp pacakge to include private jet usage for family if the principal is not on the plane. It also looks good on the company balance sheet, since the plane isn't on it.

            But there is a situation where Netjets is potentially a business option - for medium sized companies. I know of a company that has a policy for the CEO that if First is full, then he is allowed to charter a private jet. So NJ would work in that market. It is also common to have private jet domestic/commercial international operations - where SQ is probably trying to position it's Suites. It comes down to what you can negotiate in your package (or not).

            Going OT, so I'll leave it here.

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            • #7
              My bad

              $12,608 is for 77W flights

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              • #8
                [“You’re Eligible for First Class, but not for a Class Beyond First!”
                In October 2007, Suites for Singapore-London was priced at nearly S$20,000, and Suites for London-Sydney was priced at approximately 10,000 pounds. Several HR departments of companies, including civil service departments in Singapore, issued circulars or directives stating that “Since the Singapore Airlines Suites are a class beyond first, officers who are usually eligible for First Class travel will be ineligible for Suites”. Evidently, HR departments were hard pressed to justify paying 50% more for senior management to take Suites.

                This is spot-on!!!!!

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                • #9
                  Spoke to a marketing guru in my company today about this. Had an interesting point of view.

                  After all the outrage, hoohah and hullaballoo - you DO know it exists. Everyone knows it exists.

                  Fare notwithstanding, do you want to fly in it? I do. I suspect a fair few people would like to.

                  Fare/Redemption rules notwithstanding, does this class of service conjure up Specialness? It does. It does to the layman.
                  (sure, the folk here on SQTalk know that it's basically a cubicle with the same old F service)

                  So, the layman looks at the billboards/ads/virals and says "wow, singapore airlines has these shiny new A380's and in their shiny new A380's they have these cool looking seats. So I can't afford to fly in Suites, but I could try out the airline".

                  There is a halo effect that filters down to the rest of the product line. I don't know how to quantify it, but I could imagine that it's there.

                  Same as what the Enzo/California/458 italia/599 may do for the humble punto and 500, suites may be doing for Y.

                  I don't think VW was counting the numbers too much when they bought Bugatti. Every Veyron sold loses money - but if that association sells a few more Golf GTi's.....


                  Don't shoot the messenger It was interesting to listen to him talk though.

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                  • #10
                    That is an interesting point. How true it is I guessed I will never know. Agreed that suites are beyond reach for most. Sure, I will try it over long haul except for the pricing.

                    If it is the halo effects, (Not shooting the messenger or anyone else or trying to prove a point) I am curious why don't they enhance the other effects like F&B, Limousine, buggy service to the gates etc..to give it a greater aura of exclusivity?

                    Maybe they are doing the same as for changes in PPS back in 2007 to reproduce the halo effects without any enhancements at all. It was definitely working beyond all their imaginations in culling the head count...at least for now. Certainly, the effects are two opposing folds....a)one is completely put off after many realizing how more expensive but also more worthless particularly if QPPS a long way from TPPS b) one certainly try HARDER to obtain status and HARDER to maintain status.

                    I have perhaps a dumb thought and how true it is I don't really know....the NEW SQ unlike the OLD SQ, thinks in a new way. Having built up a large reserve of brand value and in fat times decided that the PAX will accept whatever it throws up. That includes the new suite class priced at sky high level but no other frills and PPSValue stringency with reduction in value. It is a concept of higher pricing but lower cost. Personally, I preferred the OLD SQ as they think more in terms of revenue gain rather than cost incurred and work harder to please the better customers.

                    Certainly, it is a strategy that filled with risks and it will be interesting to see the effects pre-suite introduction in terms of premier class load as compared to that post-suite. It will be also interesting to compare to other airlines like EK and QF that have A380. Having carried out the strategy, oops, seems a wrong one and everyone concerned thinks it is better to wait (do nothing) for the next upturn and be proven right.

                    What is your take, Madame?
                    Last edited by LionCity; 6 August 2009, 09:14 PM.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by LionCity View Post
                      What is your take, Madame?
                      My take? It got me really itchy at one stage to try it. Now that I have, it's not quite what it's cracked up to be, but hey - it's still a really nice way to travel.

                      Over my regular Air Asia seat (which i find myself in more often than not), I'd take 3F on a 9V-SK* series plane any day of the week.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by SQflyergirl View Post
                        Fare notwithstanding, do you want to fly in it? I do. I suspect a fair few people would like to.
                        I've flew in it and can't see what's the fuss about. Also don't feel it's worth paying extra for. I end up prefering the F class on the 777-300ER. Everything is the same including the fully flat bed, except the enclosed walls ( which actually gave me a claustrophic feel that I can do without ).

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by benlee View Post
                          I've flew in it and can't see what's the fuss about. Also don't feel it's worth paying extra for. I end up prefering the F class on the 777-300ER. Everything is the same including the fully flat bed, except the enclosed walls ( which actually gave me a claustrophic feel that I can do without ).
                          I've heard that from others - but that's what opinions are about eh? Wasn't all that crash hot either for me.

                          But let's imagine this - Forget one moment the Solitaire regular, million miler road warrior. The world at large thinks Singapore Airlines are the bees knees. At least the perception is that way. And perception is half the battle won.

                          People perceive that they got the prettiest (and handomest, just in case there are male crew reading this) looking crew.

                          People perceive that they got the nicesterest, newerestest airplanes (dodgy just pre D check aircraft sales aside)

                          People perceive that they got the bestest airport to work from (ICN/HKG are pretty good too and will give changi a run for their money. I like all 3)

                          and now... after all that hype and publicity

                          People perceive that they have this betterer than first class product.
                          There's a little truth in all the points above, but also a few little side issues that not many people are aware of.

                          Ask THESE people if they'd wouldn't mind sitting in 1A on SQ334 tonight.

                          Maybe these people won't stump up 1 gajillion dollars for R, but hey, if that's what i think of the airline, then a couple of hundred or thousand to travel in 31A ain't a bad way to go either.

                          So.... whilst we're having a field day blasting SQ for their "empty R" policy - if in reality their goal was to build some halo points, build a little desire into it, put a little Sex in the sky, then i'd say it's been a rip roaring success. Of course, if they intended for it to be full every single day and flight, then it's been a monumental failure.

                          Maybe, just maybe, they're not as dumb as we make them out to be

                          or of course, they could be completely mad.

                          Answers on a postcard please

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by SQflyergirl View Post
                            My take? It got me really itchy at one stage to try it. Now that I have, it's not quite what it's cracked up to be, but hey - it's still a really nice way to travel.

                            Over my regular Air Asia seat (which i find myself in more often than not), I'd take 3F on a 9V-SK* series plane any day of the week.
                            I love to try it too on long haul....but no money lah! Maybe I am not hard headed enough not to fall for the good old halo trick.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by SQflyergirl View Post
                              Ask THESE people if they'd wouldn't mind sitting in 1A on SQ334 tonight.
                              Actually, that got me thinking so i looked it up. Only 2F's occupied at the moment

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