SQ B777 withdrawal thread

[SQ957]

Effective 27OCT, 3 weekly SQ448/449 will be operated by 772.

I think you meant the 77E, which will run until 31 Jan. From 1 Feb, it will switch to a 772.

[Bitterroot]

If so, what happens to SQ 800/805 to PEK and SQ 448/449 to DAC, both (previously) scheduled to go 772 from 1 February?

Thank you for your insight though.

Duh. I forgot about that odd gap (which you pointed out 30+ posts ago), 7 Jan -- 31 Jan, during which there are no SQ/SRx rotations programmed, only to have the type re-appear 1 February. Seems strange, but that is still what the GDS shows for inventory.

[ell3]

well, there are now only 3x 772Rs... SQM, SQN & SRM.
SQL has stopped flying 10 days so safe to say she's out.

I dont think they'll even need to have a regular schedule of usage for them anymore. And my feel is that by Jan 2020 there's going to be only 2 left.

One thing though, they did after all keep the 2013Y refitted cabins over the non-refitted ones. So, yes SVB/C/E will be the last 77Es and SYF/L will leave first.

[SQA350]

Last day for the B772 on SQ247/248 yesterday, here is 9V-SQN arriving and departing Wellington Airport.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LxIIPYvXVDw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3PXNS6_mW7c

[FN-GM]

One thing though, they did after all keep the 2013Y refitted cabins

They have 2006 cabins.

[9V-SPL]

9V-SVN is currently out on air-test as SQ8877.

[sbs2716g]

from the latest financial statement, there seem to be a change of plan.

3 777-200 and 1 777-200ER will be removed from fleet between 30/9/19 to 31/3/20
so by end of 31/3/20, there will be 1 777-200 and 3 X 777-200ER in the fleet.

the previous update is that there will be 1 777-200 and 1 777-200ER by 31/3/20.

[FSJZ]

from the latest financial statement, there seem to be a change of plan.

3 777-200 and 1 777-200ER will be removed from fleet between 30/9/19 to 31/3/20
so by end of 31/3/20, there will be 1 777-200 and 3 X 777-200ER in the fleet.

the previous update is that there will be 1 777-200 and 1 777-200ER by 31/3/20.

Thanks for the update!

So it seems that by 31 March 2020, these are the 777-200/200ERs left in the fleet:

777-200 (x1)
- 9V-SQM/SQN/SRM

777-200ER (x3)
- 9V-SVB
- 9V-SVC
- 9V-SVE

Assuming SQ will be retiring the non-refitted cabins first

[sbs2716g]

Thanks for the update!

So it seems that by 31 March 2020, these are the 777-200/200ERs left in the fleet:

777-200 (x1)
- 9V-SQM/SQN/SRM

777-200ER (x3)
- 9V-SVB
- 9V-SVC
- 9V-SVE

Assuming SQ will be retiring the non-refitted cabins first

Kinda weird that SQ is keeping the ER? Theydont seem to have any flights schedule for the ER after March 2020.
Maybe they will keep it for Busan n Phuket.

[flyguy]

There will still be the older 5 777-300 after Apr 2020 remaining.

[oliverdave]

Kinda weird that SQ is keeping the ER? Theydont seem to have any flights schedule for the ER after March 2020.
Maybe they will keep it for Busan n Phuket.

According to Mainly Miles it might be insurance against 737 MAX delays and also capacity reduction because of the 737NG refit scheme.

[ell3]

i agree, likely as coverage for the 737maxes and spare capacity.

but also agree that its strange they're choosing the ERs vs the regionals... perhaps its to do with the seat count on the SVs (245Y vs 228Y on regionals). or simply the fact that SQM/SQN/SRM are due for major checks sooner given their higher cycle count.

i also mentioned some time ago that SQJ, SVC & SVE were listed for sale on aeroconnect, they havent seem to have found buyers yet.

[pokfur]

From a pax point of view it’s nice to have flat beds on the 77E instead of the old regional on the 772s, in line with the new flat bed regional J, so that could be one consideration for keeping them.

Secondly the 77E is also closest in seat count to the A330, losing just 4 J seats and 10 Y seats, so it is the best interim solution as the A330s get deleased, assuming these are the routes being replaced.

Lastly the 77E also retains the flexibility of covering any long haul flights (eg rescue flights for AOG aircraft) since they still have the range to do so.

Maybe they’ll also continue to fly Scoot replacement flights, in which case the lower J and higher Y seat count makes sense too.

Personally I’m happy to fly them and even prefer them to the new regional J haha

[SQ957]

On a side note, it has been fascinating to see the 77Ws being replaced by the A350 on most European routes since the first A350 arrived in 2016. Nowadays, SQ 77W ops in Europe are confined to only London (2 daily), Frankfurt (daily), and Paris (10 weekly over the winter)... a huge difference from what it was four years ago. I also see that SQ's 77W ops are now very much concentrated on Sydney, Melbourne, Tokyo, Beijing and Shanghai (as well as other medium haul routes).

Before we know it, we could already be talking about 77W retirements.

[flyguy]

The 77Ws are used more for the premium market as it has 4 classes and are doing the SIN-US sectors too. By the time the 777-9 comes into service, some of the 77Ws would be in the 15th year and should be starting their retirement which will see some 77Ws into their 18th year of service before they are totally retired.