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Hi Everybody! Do you know why SQ doesn't fly to South America.Brazil and Argentina may be a great market for SQ. Jal,Korean and Mas fly to South America. If they obtain something from that market, SQ obtains certainly.
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Doesn't MAS do it for prestige reason? Do they even make money at all out of this route?Originally posted by Singapore744 View Post -
Originally posted by Tanandika View Post
It's not prestige.
In no particular order: Ranch-Mahathir-outside Buenos Aires-owns.
Go work it out yourself
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A few years ago, SQ were considering SIN-JNB-GRU. Now that South African are part of Star Alliance, it makes better business sense to interline with SA.Comment
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SQ also has traffic rights to SCL and was once also considering something like SIN-AKL-SCL !
Alliance or not, SQ has no good fares to South America. Tried a few years ago to get someone from SIN to LIM and what a nightmare it was especially since that government employee has to fly (well, he insisted on flying) with SQ to gateways.
In the end, we stuck him on QF/LA which was better than the route he wanted - SIN-LAX-SCL.Comment
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Today's Straits Times reports that an air services agreement is to be signed between Singapore and Brazil.
Singapore carriers can fly 14 passenger and 7 cargo flights per week to any Brazilian airport. The exception is Sao Paulo, where only 3 flights a week are allowed.
Currently Singapore has air services agreement with Argentina, Mexico and Chile.
Sticking point?
Singapore needs to negotiate for "5th freedom rights" with intermediate points in Europe or Africa.
Is there enough traffic?Comment
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Originally posted by 9V-SIA View Post
So did SIA make a decision in response to this? And IF SIA finally agrees to fly to South America, which route will be the best one? If they fly to Rio De Janeiro or Sao Paulo, their passengers can benefit from the future TAM Linhas Aereas' South American network (hopefully a codeshare) as TAM is in the process in becoming a Star Alliance carrier. Otherwise passengers wanting to fly from Singapore to South America via South Africa can't benefit much from South African Airways being a Star Alliance carrier, as 1) it only flies to Sao Paulo (what about those wanting to go to Buenos Aires, Rio De Janeiro, etc.?) , and 2) there is currently no codeshare agreement on the JNB-GRU route between the 2 airlines, which I don't foresee it happening in the near future. Unless after TAM becomes a Star Alliance carrier and codeshares with SIA on the SIN-JNB-GRU route (like how Air Canada codeshares with SIA on the SIN-LHR-YYZ route where SIA takes SIN-LHR and Air Canada takes LHR-YYZ). By the way, is SIA still planning to fly to Mexico City?Comment
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Singapore has been signing ASA's with various countries quite frequently over recent times. I read about a possible one with Peru earlier the week while the PM was at a summit over there. However, just because they sign an ASA does not mean an imminent service starting to that country.
Quite.Originally posted by Megatop View PostComment
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Latest comments seems a tad more "promising", although of course it is still all PR-talk:
"Speaking to Channel NewsAsia, Singapore Airlines' chairman, Stephen Lee, said the agreement will pave the way for direct air links between the two countries. He said: "We will certainly look into it. We do periodic planning and review of our routes and our network. Currently, we do not fly to South America, (but) South America is certainly on our radar screen. Brazil is the largest economy in South America and it will be a logical first step.""
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SQ should totally fly to South America. It represents their final frontier now that they started flying to Moscow! Brazil has much potential as a destination. Only 3 weekly flights to Sao Paulo? No problem, they can do SIN-JNB-GRU 3x weekly and SIN-JNB-GIG and/or SIN-JNB-EZE 4x weekly! Anywhere else in Latin America their passengers need to go, they can connect via TAM or Lan Chile. Imagine the cache of flying to both Rio and BA, they can use the B777-200ER and call it the SQsamba and/or SQtango flight(s)!
I think load factor shouldn't be a problem considering the increasing trade and tourism between Brazil, South Africa, and the Far East (especially China). It makes better sense than Mexico City or Lima which are both fairly easy connections from the US West Coast.
I can already visualize the inflight menus paired with all that delicious (and cheap) Argentine, Brazilian, and Chilean wines:
First/Raffles: Parrillada Argentina, Moqueca Bahiana (with Tristan lobster), Grilled Chilean Salmon
Economy: Churrasco, Pollo Asado, Spaghetti alla marinara (with prawns)Last edited by B727; 12 December 2008, 11:00 PM.Le jour de Saint Eugène, en traversant la Calle Mayor...Comment
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And I totally agree with you! But why via JNB? I think Nairobi or Sydney would make good stopovers. Since TAM is about to be a Star Alliance member, passengers can hop onto TAM via codeshare service and fly to any pary of Latin America. Oh yes, Air China stopped flights to Sao Paulo in Oct 08. What happened?Originally posted by B727 View PostComment
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They should have churrasco all classes. Picanha cooked onboard - just like a churrascariaOriginally posted by B727 View Post
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