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  • Some thoughts on the A380 Suites experience

    Folks

    Since my recent flights I noticed a few thngs that might be improved in the suites, and I'd be interested to know if others feel the same or not.

    o When seated for a meal, I just could not get in the right position. I felt I was too low in the seat, and I couldn't get the table close enough.

    o I miss the writing sets that you get in F.

    o There are a lot more strorage places and cubby holes in the windows suites compared to the suites in the middle.

    o The beds are rather narrow deterring sleeping on your side. I could not see any logistical reason why the bed could not have been made wider, although it would have mde the 'bedside table' area smaller.

    o When the middle cabins are made into a double bed, as far as I could tell the middle partition is about another 8" higher than the bed itself. Does this partition move up or down?

    o I like that SIA have chosen a manual solution to the doors and suite partitions (middle suites) rather than Emirates' solution electric everthing in their suites. The Emirates solution innevitably led to clunkiness with squeaky operation, and it really isn't necessary IMHO.

    o Did anyone ever figure out how to adjust the air coming out of the vents?

    o Although I've seen mention that needing to ask the crew to do a bed deployment is a PITA for some, personally I found that the crew were mostly excellent at mind reading for this. Also, the recommendation by another SQTalker to have your bed deployed in a spare suite is a great idea.

    o Best suite? Well I really did prefer row 1 over row 3. In any row other than 1 or 4, with the doors and/or blinds open, I felt I would be easily inadvertently looked upon. In row 4, and to some extent I found in row 3, you will experience galley noise. I didn't feel in anyway that the stairs being adjacent to row 1 was a problem for me. There's definitely the least amount of traffic there. Although row 3A/F have three windows, I didn't really feel that I missed it when I only had two. A further benefit of the window 3A/F and 4A/F suites is that, if the middle 2C/D or 3C/D suites are empty (all were on my three flights) you can run the moving map display on adjeacnt middle suite while you watch the AVOD on your own.

    o The three flights I have travlled on have had 7, 4 and 6 suites occupied respectively. Is this indicative or was I lucky?

    I will probably think of other things, but that's my list for now!

    Cheers, Howard

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    Hi Howard,

    Just some feedback on your comments.

    point nr. 3 - the Suites are the result of a search for balance: in this perspective it has been necessary to offer to the passenger a mix according to the space available. So while the passengers on the window sides enjoy these extra storage spaces, the ones in the middle enjoy the possibility of having a double bed (of course IF they travel with a companion) or for example a baby bassinet.

    point nr. 4 - I truly believe that the bed has been made as wide as possible. If you look carefully at the walls separating the Suites, you notice that in the front (aisle side) there is a storage where you have an hanger for your coat - this is quite wide. In addition, you might have noticed some air outlet in such area, which implies that between the coat storage and the bed house there must be space as well for some sort of air duct. Add finally the thickness of the walls for each of these compartments and there is not extra millimeter left for a wider bed (of course unless you make the coat storage smaller).

    point nr. 5 - I believe that part should go down.

    Just my 2 cts.

    BTW, how many times have you been flying in the Suites?

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Ikarus2006 View Post
      BTW, how many times have you been flying in the Suites?
      I think he said 3

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      • #4
        Howard, I have not flown on the A380 yet, so I was wondering if you could comment on whether you would rather take the A380 suite with a narrow bed or a 77W with a wide bed? Personally I love the bed on the 77W and I can't wait to make my own comparison.

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        • #5
          deltaflyingprof, that is what happens if you write a message too early on a sunday morning

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          • #6
            Originally posted by DeltaFlyingProf View Post
            Howard, I have not flown on the A380 yet, so I was wondering if you could comment on whether you would rather take the A380 suite with a narrow bed or a 77W with a wide bed? Personally I love the bed on the 77W and I can't wait to make my own comparison.

            DFP, I have only flown the 77W once on the shortish hop HKG-SIN I'm afraid, and it was at the beginning of my SIA flying career, so even though I wanted to try it as a bed, I was too reserved to. Sorry!

            Howard

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Ikarus2006 View Post
              Hi Howard,
              point nr. 3 - the Suites are the result of a search for balance: in this perspective it has been necessary to offer to the passenger a mix according to the space available. So while the passengers on the window sides enjoy these extra storage spaces, the ones in the middle enjoy the possibility of having a double bed (of course IF they travel with a companion) or for example a baby bassinet.
              Yes, I can understand this, I guess it was more of an observation than anything else.

              point nr. 4 - I truly believe that the bed has been made as wide as possible. If you look carefully at the walls separating the Suites, you notice that in the front (aisle side) there is a storage where you have an hanger for your coat - this is quite wide. In addition, you might have noticed some air outlet in such area, which implies that between the coat storage and the bed house there must be space as well for some sort of air duct. Add finally the thickness of the walls for each of these compartments and there is not extra millimeter left for a wider bed (of course unless you make the coat storage smaller).
              ISTR that the allocated coat closets are behind each suite. I don't see why the coat closet has any bearing - it is deep enough such that the folded bed and the coat closet must overlap I'd have thought anyway? Thus, as I see it, it's coat closet, then folded bed then seat. I took into account the air vents when I was trying to work out that you should be able to get another 6"+ of width. OK, Now I need to fly again with a tape measure!!!


              BTW, how many times have you been flying in the Suites?
              3.

              Cheers, Howard

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Howard Long View Post
                o When seated for a meal, I just could not get in the right position. I felt I was too low in the seat, and I couldn't get the table close enough.
                I did play around with it. And I did not have problem. But may be because I am a short person? But if it is too low, it's like the table on 77W, there is a button to adjust the height of the table (same in C class).

                Originally posted by Howard Long View Post
                o I miss the writing sets that you get in F.
                Yes, it's too bad that SQ decided not to have a drawer for them. It's a pain for having to ask for it.

                Originally posted by Howard Long View Post
                o There are a lot more strorage places and cubby holes in the windows suites compared to the suites in the middle.
                Indeed. I remember those storage spaces were the first thing I noticed when playing around between seats 3F and 3D. And also the width of the divider in seat 2CD and 3CD are way smaller than the flat portion (console) by the window.

                Originally posted by Howard Long View Post
                o When the middle cabins are made into a double bed, as far as I could tell the middle partition is about another 8" higher than the bed itself. Does this partition move up or down?
                I know how high 8 inches is. I have not been on 2CD or 3CD yet. But, I have seen that the middle partition can be pressed all the way down two make the two single bed becomes one.

                Originally posted by Howard Long View Post
                o Although I've seen mention that needing to ask the crew to do a bed deployment is a PITA for some, personally I found that the crew were mostly excellent at mind reading for this. Also, the recommendation by another SQTalker to have your bed deployed in a spare suite is a great idea.
                For this kind of bed, I should say it's not a PITA asking the crew for bed deployment in the Suites. To be able to do it yourself, I should say someone has to fly the Suites lots! And just remember, when at the lounge, ask how full is the load. If you see any empty seat, once aboard, tell the crew that you want the empty suite near you to be your bedroom. I have not done this route yet, but seems a great one for SIN-LHR-SIN route. Sydney is too short to jump around.

                Originally posted by Howard Long View Post
                o Best suite? Well I really did prefer row 1 over row 3. In any row other than 1 or 4, with the doors and/or blinds open, I felt I would be easily inadvertently looked upon. In row 4, and to some extent I found in row 3, you will experience galley noise. I didn't feel in anyway that the stairs being adjacent to row 1 was a problem for me. There's definitely the least amount of traffic there. Although row 3A/F have three windows, I didn't really feel that I missed it when I only had two. A further benefit of the window 3A/F and 4A/F suites is that, if the middle 2C/D or 3C/D suites are empty (all were on my three flights) you can run the moving map display on adjeacnt middle suite while you watch the AVOD on your own.
                I forgot to ask you to bring the measuring tape. I feel that the width of the suite in 3AF is wider than the 1AF. I mean the width from the screen door to the window.

                Originally posted by Howard Long View Post
                o The three flights I have travlled on have had 7, 4 and 6 suites occupied respectively. Is this indicative or was I lucky?
                I had in average about 10.

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