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  • SQ to CTS ?

    Why is there no SQ flights to CTS? No passenger load? Or, were there SQ flights to CTS previously?

    Now has to fly into NRT/KIX and connect on ANA (on StarAlliance)

  • #2
    Singapore Airlines used to fly to Sapporo.

    But nowadays, passengers can take advantage of the codesharing between KIX/NRT and CTS as you pointed out above, with All Nippon Airways.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Singapore_Air View Post
      Singapore Airlines used to fly to Sapporo.

      But nowadays, passengers can take advantage of the codesharing between KIX/NRT and CTS as you pointed out above, with All Nippon Airways.
      for passengers ex-SIN, that's 2 flights to CTS via NRT/KIX. but for passengers flying into SIN and connecting out on SIN to KIX/NRT to CTS, that's a whopping 3 flights to CTS...

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      • #4
        Yeah it's a bit of a bother. Maybe when the next generation aircraft (B789) come, then old destinations can be restarted.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Singapore_Air View Post
          Singapore Airlines used to fly to Sapporo.

          But nowadays, passengers can take advantage of the codesharing between KIX/NRT and CTS as you pointed out above, with All Nippon Airways.
          *** think SQ ever flew to Sapporo. But SQ did once flew to Sendai in northern japan using its A310-300s.
          My past and future travels

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          • #6
            Originally posted by ycp81 View Post
            *** think SQ ever flew to Sapporo. But SQ did once flew to Sendai in northern japan using its A310-300s.
            the passenger load to Sapporo is not lucrative?

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            • #7
              Is it possible to book SQ codeshare Tokyo Narita to Sapporo Chitose return on SIA website?

              These SQ/NH codeshare flights are on the timetable but not available on flight booking menu... (even if I choose Other Cities)

              [NRT-CTS] Flight: SQ5955 non-stop
              [CTS-NRT] Flight: SQ5952 non-stop

              Both operated by ANA

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              • #8
                Originally posted by dsim View Post
                the passenger load to Sapporo is not lucrative?
                Just a guess, but it probably consists of a high proportion of leisure travellers and not very much premium F/J traffic which could make it unattractive as a route, even if there is potential to have lots of passengers in Y.

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                • #9
                  I took CX's HKG/CTS route year before last, and loads in Y were not bad I believe.
                  Flight operated by 773, 4x weekly.
                  Some Taiwanese carriers operate to CTS as well as an alternative.
                  zxcvbn

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by dsim View Post
                    Is it possible to book SQ codeshare Tokyo Narita to Sapporo Chitose return on SIA website?

                    These SQ/NH codeshare flights are on the timetable but not available on flight booking menu... (even if I choose Other Cities)

                    [NRT-CTS] Flight: SQ5955 non-stop
                    [CTS-NRT] Flight: SQ5952 non-stop

                    Both operated by ANA
                    You need to ring up SQ reservations, or contact a TA. IIRC you're only able to book the codeshares if connecting to/from SQ long hauls.
                    All opinions shared are my own, and are not necessarily those of my employer or any other organisation of which I'm affiliated to.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by KeithMEL View Post
                      You need to ring up SQ reservations, or contact a TA. IIRC you're only able to book the codeshares if connecting to/from SQ long hauls.
                      i intend to do bwn-sin-nrt-cts return... is that considered long haul? called sq office in bwn, they advised to look for agent...

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                      • #12
                        SQ to CTS ?

                        SQ non stop to CTS would be great route for me. A lot of Singaporeans I know go to Hokkaido to ski.
                        Advantages to ski resorts in North America and Europe include:
                        1. No jet lag
                        2. More reliable snow during school holidays in December.
                        I don't know whether they can make money off season though.

                        2 possible revenue streams to make this flight viable:
                        1. Cargo. Hokkaido Food Fairs are very popular in Singapore
                        2. Develop year round tourism

                        Current connections are by NH or JAL and require long transits/transfer NRT to Haneda, cramped cabins and service other airlines don't talk about

                        CX flies there but an overnight in HKG required.

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                        • #13
                          Sometimes, I'm just curious why don't SQ develops MI or even TR to further exploit the long haul leisure market, not just regional. They can buy 787 and configure it with more economy class seats and less business class. Then, they can fly to places like CTS, TXL, VIE, ATH, ARN, etc.

                          Of course, I'm no expert in aviation and with oil prices at record high, this may not be a viable idea.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by 9V-SIA View Post
                            SQ non stop to CTS would be great route for me. A lot of Singaporeans I know go to Hokkaido to ski.
                            Advantages to ski resorts in North America and Europe include:
                            1. No jet lag
                            2. More reliable snow during school holidays in December.
                            I don't know whether they can make money off season though.

                            2 possible revenue streams to make this flight viable:
                            1. Cargo. Hokkaido Food Fairs are very popular in Singapore
                            2. Develop year round tourism

                            Current connections are by NH or JAL and require long transits/transfer NRT to Haneda, cramped cabins and service other airlines don't talk about

                            CX flies there but an overnight in HKG required.
                            i have considered cx but the going & return requires overnights at HK. HK airport hotels being expensive... be it regal or novotel, this draws the whole deal down...

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by 9V-SIA View Post
                              SQ non stop to CTS would be great route for me. A lot of Singaporeans I know go to Hokkaido to ski.
                              Advantages to ski resorts in North America and Europe include:
                              1. No jet lag
                              2. More reliable snow during school holidays in December.
                              I don't know whether they can make money off season though.

                              2 possible revenue streams to make this flight viable:
                              1. Cargo. Hokkaido Food Fairs are very popular in Singapore
                              2. Develop year round tourism

                              Current connections are by NH or JAL and require long transits/transfer NRT to Haneda, cramped cabins and service other airlines don't talk about

                              CX flies there but an overnight in HKG required.

                              A quick quote from JAL online shows sin-kix-cts-nrt-sin at sgd6100/adult and sgd4700/child. wow! some it mention "Fare type: Restricted Economy ". Connection time at KIX and NRT are good though and no HND/NRT transfer required. price puts me off.

                              Singapore to Sapporo

                              Flight 1 Saturday, August 15, 2009

                              Departure: 11:00PM Singapore, Singapore - Changi, terminal 1
                              Arrival: 6:25AM +1 day(s) Osaka, Japan - Kansai International
                              Airline: Japan Airlines JL722 e
                              Aircraft: Boeing 767-200/300
                              Fare type: Restricted Economy
                              Change of plane required. Time between flights = 2h10min

                              Flight 2 Sunday, August 16, 2009

                              Departure: 8:35AM Osaka, Japan - Kansai International
                              Arrival: 10:25AM Sapporo, Japan - Chitose
                              Airline: Japan Airlines JL2503 e
                              Aircraft: MC Donnell Douglas MD-90
                              Fare type: Restricted Economy

                              Sapporo to Singapore

                              Flight 1 Monday, August 24, 2009

                              Departure: 2:25PM Sapporo, Japan - Chitose
                              Arrival: 4:00PM Tokyo, Japan - Narita, terminal 2
                              Airline: Japan Airlines JL3042 e
                              Aircraft: Boeing 767-200/300
                              Fare type: Restricted Economy
                              Change of plane required. Time between flights = 2h15min

                              Flight 2 Monday, August 24, 2009

                              Departure: 6:15PM Tokyo, Japan - Narita, terminal 2
                              Arrival: 12:25AM +1 day(s) Singapore, Singapore - Changi, terminal 1
                              Airline: Japan Airlines JL711 e
                              Aircraft: Boeing 777-200/300
                              Fare type: Restricted Economy

                              Cannot get ANA fares from http://www.anaskyweb.com/sg/e/index.html ?

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