Rumoured: SIA goes nonstop SIN-YYZ

[concept|infinit]

Actually, a few excuses were given, in which one of them was that SQ was not benefiting with the route financially unless they filled seats from the European cities to YYZ. They had to use a 747 for this route, and the plane was rumored be flying almost empty at times, even though the flight was only three times a week. Most were travelling to Amsterdam, and a lot to Vienna, with a few travelling to YYZ from SIN.

I remember the end of the Toronto route brought the birth of the New York (JFK) route, and SIA had no problems with this JFK route so far, since they still operate it.

AC did operate the L1011, then operated the 747-200 (sometimes even the 747-100) until Jan 1991, and then ceased the destinations to Singapore.

Yeap, that whole protectionism issue in Canada is well known.
AC... What a bunch of losers

[sumitsan]

Yeap, that whole protectionism issue in Canada is well known.
AC... What a bunch of losers

Yeah, even though I live in Canada, I never liked Air Canada at all. Besides this issue with blacking out routes, they've never had good service. I remember once on SQ when I travelled from LAX-SIN on economy class, the entertainment system at my seat was not functioning for the first half hour. The crew had to show the safety manually, but half hour after the depature, it worked fine. Yet, after the trip, SQ did apologize (the cabin crew and pilots), and they even gave me an expensive pen as a compensation, which was not needed, but appreciated.

A situation like this happened years ago when I travelled by Air Canada from Frankfurt to Toronto. I try not to land in the US when I am coming back to Canada because of the hassle they give at JFK, so opted to change flights in FRA and flew to YYZ by AC from there. The plane was a 747-400 Combi (it was my only time I ever flew on Combi plane), and service was horrible. A couple hours after take-off, the English audio for movies stopped working. This plane did not have personalized TV screens for each seat. The German audio was working but that also dies out after another hour. So my only option at that point was to listen to the songs, and even that was not working eventually. Air Canada did state that they had problems with audio for this plane for a while, but did not apologize for the issue, and did not compensate either. Instead, they had that "It is what it is" attitude.

The only plus part about that sector was that I got to travel on AC 747-400 before they were retired by the airline, and also that I got travel on a Combi aircraft. Besides that, I don't really care much for that airline.

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dream on..

SQ has been kicked out of Toronto since the early 80's
and wounds are still fresh till today.

No reason to try again under 'restrictive' agreements.
Just look at YVR as a reference.
Can u imagine sending a A380 there?
Probably SQ will be further restricted to 2 flight a week or less.

Looks like protectionism to me

[wsssaero]

Protectionism...when AC doesn't even fly to SIN from anywhere in Canada. What for...

[sumitsan]

SQ has been kicked out of Toronto since the early 80's
and wounds are still fresh till today.

Actually, it was early '90s. They introduced the route in 1991, and got rid of it in 1992. It was replaced by the JFK route.

[SQalMundo]

so is anything going to happen in the near future?

[zvezda]

so is anything going to happen in the near future?

It is extremely unlikely that SQ will serve YYZ in the near future.

[sumitsan]

I also heard that there was a mini protectionism issue between Jakarta and Singapore Airlines. I remember SQ was operating 747-400s to Jakarta for the busy flights, and eventually, they were forced to send A310s instead because Garuda protested that they did not have planes of that size to compete with SQ. This happened in like the early '90s. Does anyone know of this?

If that happened that was not true because Garuda did have a few 747-400s. They may have received them later, but I do know that Garuda had a few 747-200s in the late '80s and early '90s, and the 747-200 is an aircraft that is of similar size as the -400 series. So I'm not sure why SQ were not allowed to fly the Megatops to Jakarta if they were indeed packed.

[SQ77WMEL]

Damn I need to fly to YYZ in Aug, really would have loved to go direct on SQ

[TooMuchSQ?]

I just accidentally read some RTW rules, and came across this wording in the section for SQ business class surcharges:

D. Business class surcharge on D772LR/B773ER/A345/A380 services as below:
1. A surcharge of USD250.00 per coupon will be added to the applicable fare for travel on Boeing 777-200LR
aircraft when travel is to/from/via YTO/YVR: 77L via YTO/YVR

I know they don't fly there yet, but this might point to somthing?

-A

[Gunnar Smithsen]

Nor do they operate the 77L

or is this surcharge applicable for SQ ticketed flights on AC?

[TooMuchSQ?]

Nor do they operate the 77L

or is this surcharge applicable for SQ ticketed flights on AC?

I know they don't have the 77L, but seeing how they explicitly hacing it in the rules that are to be valid for a period ahead makes you wonder. I can't find any mention of AC operated SQ code sharing either.

-A

[MAN Flyer]

I know they don't fly there yet, but this might point to somthing?

-A

It's nothing to do with SQ as they clearly don't have any, it's for AC and their 772LR's. That note is in the *A RTW rules/restrictions.

There is nothing to wonder, SQ don't have any in operation or on order.