Singapore Airlines to announce SIN-SFO non stops!

[chiraagnt]

ITS OFFICIAL! Singapore airlines announces a new non-stop flight in direct competition with United Airlines on the SIN-SFO route with the A350! Thoughts?

Source: (@singaporeair Instagram/Yahoo)
http://www.ausbt.com.au/singapore-ai...-san-francisco

Can this non stop route handle two competitors? And which route may get cut due to this non stop? HKG/ICN-SFO?

Interesting times ahead for Singapore airlines!

In addition, with the new nonstop, Singapore Airlines is axing it's ICN-SFO tagon and changing it to ICN-LAX, meaning SQ15/16 will be SIN-ICN-LAX from 23 October!

BCN-GRU tagon flights are being cut as well, but SQ is retaining SIN-BCN flights! Guess the new service from LATAM on BCN-GRU which is 6x weekly was too much competition, especially with the Brazilian Economy in tatters! Shame though cause Singapore airlines can't boast it flies to 'all 6 inhabited continents'

Lastly, SIN-NRT-LAX is being downguaged from an A380 to 77W from 23 October!


Overall summary: SFO and LAX go 2x daily, GRU cut and A380 dropped from LAX!


With the new A359ULRs now in 2018, I'm highly interested to see what the third nonstop destination is now that they've launched SFO nonstops! Guess the United launch in June and the excellent load factors reported made them prepone it to this year

[alian]

I'm thinking it actually maybe SIN-LAX. Fighting with United seems silly for SFO but doing LAX would be somethings. But of course they would need to make special adjustments to the A350 to meet the length.

Just my thoughts and opinions

[SQ380]

I'm thinking it actually maybe SIN-LAX. Fighting with United seems silly for SFO but doing LAX would be somethings. But of course they would need to make special adjustments to the A350 to meet the length.

Just my thoughts and opinions

Unlikely to be LAX. If you examine the teaser posted by SQ at 1600hrs, June 15th, 2016 - it shows the Golden Gate and the SilverKris Magazine is a 2016 October issue.

Based on these clues, I would say it will be a non-stop SIN-SFO to make debut in October 2016.

[SQfanatic]

Word on the street is Singapore airlines is set to announce a new non-stop flight in direct competition with United Airlines on the SIN-SFO route with the A350! Thoughts?

http://www.ausbt.com.au/singapore-ai...-san-francisco

Can this non stop route handle two competitors? And which route may get cut due to this non stop? HKG/ICN-SFO?

Interesting times ahead for Singapore airlines!

If they did what they did with LAX before the TPE route got cut, personally I can't find a reason for them to cut any route. If they cut any route it would be the ICN route. But I can't see them doing that because at least during peak season (and I'm sure outside peak season), a 77W going via ICN/HKG makes more sense as they said an A380 would have a harder time filling up with good loads especially to SFO via HKG. Plus the loads per experience are at least 90%+ during peak season even on a 77W. Increasing SFO to nonstop with an A359 will only give more people choices as far as flexibility and times go (e.g. Morning flight going via ICN, Mid afternoon (2-4pm nonstop), and evening via HKG).


Also, as for the A359ULR, I don't think my parents and I can handle nonstop flights like that, and would still prefer the 1 stop approach to stretch out in the airport. For others who can handle they can save time. Besides what cabin classes will the A359ULR have?

[alian]

Unlikely to be LAX. If you examine the teaser posted by SQ at 1600hrs, June 15th, 2016 - it shows the Golden Gate and the SilverKris Magazine is a 2016 October issue.

Based on these clues, I would say it will be a non-stop SIN-SFO to make debut in October 2016.

Agreed with all the 'hints' SFO is THE likely and obvious choice and also the current A350s would be able to meet this route without much effort or change. But I'm really hoping SIA would do something outside the 'ordinary' and surprise us.

Currently they only have 1 flight to LAX so it may be interesting to see. Other interesting stops would be SEA. BUT really all of this would be weighed in by economics and load factor is the most likely deal breaker for SIA

[leops1984]

I think it will be an addition to the existing flights. But... I think that if SQ is going to go 3x a day at SFO, it needs to make nice with UA for added feeder traffic. Fortunately, UA is under relatively new management which may be willing to play nice.

So if it does go 3x a day, there'll be more announcements than just a new nonstop flight. Codeshares out of SFO on UA metal? Maybe... but I'm just guessing.

[StarG]

Guessing SIN-SFO non stop, switch from ICN-SFO to ICN-LAX. Even greater, HKG-SFO to HKG-LAX.

[hjerapa]

I guess SIN-SFO as well, simply because the distance is shorter than SIN-LAX and the current A350s should be able to do it.

[leops1984]

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/sia-ex...190000320.html

Short version:

- SIN-SFO direct flights start.
- The ICN flight goes to LAX now, not SFO.
- NRT-LAX is downgauged to a 77W.
- São Paulo service is terminated.

[SQfanatic]

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/sia-ex...190000320.html

Short version:

- SIN-SFO direct flights start.
- The ICN flight goes to LAX now, not SFO.
- NRT-LAX is downgauged to a 77W.
- São Paulo service is terminated.

This is very interesting. So SIN-ICN-SFO is terminated and replaced with the SIN-SFO nonstop service flight N/S? :O (N/S means nonstop).

Very interesting to see LAX's presence of 77W as they look to be in dire need of new cabin products. So, let me assume this: SQ12/11 will be a 77WN like SQ2/1 are currently, but SQ flight going to LAX via ICN will be a 77WR like SQ16/15 are currently right now, right? And the timings got to be well spaced out...One should go in the morning, the other could go in the afternoon or evening depending on how one might look at it.

In this case, I'm sure my parents would prefer going via HKG if we fly SQ if the ICN route is completely terminated. Sucks for an evening arrival sometimes, but not too bad either. If this is their new strategy, they need to get cracking with more 77W refits if more new cabin 77Ws are going to fly to the US. Although I know I have the option of the A359 (Suppose I go in December), I simply cannot afford to have myself land up flying a 2006 product bird again if our plan is via HKG. I can't wait for the schedule to be posted on routesonline.

[alian]

Yup this sound like a good setup and a win for all except GRU but then again if the load is low then they'll need to stop the bleed.

Oh well SQ will be serving one continent less about

[SQfanatic]

Yeah, when I learned last year that SQ16/15 were going from 77W to 77WR (It is a downgrade in terms of the number of Y class seats, and reducing 4 First class, and the addition of S), somehow I knew it was not looking too good. I didn't think it would ever come to that. Whichever poster thought back in October or in the Fall that ICN-SFO would be terminated and just the SIN-SFO n/s and the SIN-HKG-SFO would remain should be commended for their guesses because they were right all along.

[SQ228]

Yup this sound like a good setup and a win for all except GRU but then again if the load is low then they'll need to stop the bleed.

Oh well SQ will be serving one continent less about

I'd heard things are really going badly in Brazil, and it seems it must really be killing travel demand. Originally the A359 had been hailed as SQ's solution for GRU, but seems now not even the A350 can make it economical.

Keeping to topic, would a non-stop service to a US port, connecting to another non-stop codeshared service to GRU be seen as perhaps an alternative way to keep the current passenger flow between SIN and GRU on SQ's books yet minimise the financial risk?

[wolfsburg]

Even LH has cancelled the MUC-GRU so it makes even more sense for SQ to cut as GRU is further away for SQ.