Singapore Airlines latest cabin products on the new B777-300ER (77WN) - 2013

[SQfanatic]

Approaching the 4th week soon anyone know the status of 9V-SWB (Whiskey Bravo) out of curiosity? Any chance they will be getting new wings/engine from Boeing? To me it sounds possible because Boeing still manufactures 777-300ER jets even today.

Or is it going to be a replacement/writeoff (SND)?

[SQfanatic]

From airlineroute:

Singapore Airlines around Friday (15JUL16) has made minor modifications to its planned Northern winter 2016/17 operations, effective 30OCT16. As of 17JUL16, planned operation changes as follow.

Singapore – Hong Kong Revised A380 operation. SQ866/865 operates with A380 from 23OCT16 to 29OCT16, and switches back to 777-300ER from 30OCT16 (Overall A380 operation remains 1 daily in W16)
Singapore – London Heathrow Revised A380 operation. SQ306/305 operates with A380 from 24OCT16 to 29OCT16, and switches back to 777-300ER from 30OCT16 (Overall 2 daily each A380 and 777-300ER, instead of 3 daily A380 and 1 777-300ER)
Singapore – Manila 01DEC16 – 06JAN17 SQ916/921 operates with A330-300, replacing 777-200ER
Singapore – Melbourne Revised operational aircraft changes
SQ207/208 01SEP16 – 22OCT16 Planned A350 operation, revealed on Airlineroute on 10JUL16, remains unchanged. Service operates with 777-200ER from 23OCT16
SQ217/218 eff 30OCT16 A380 replaces 777-300ER, daily service
SQ227/228 Daily 777-300ER, no changes
SQ237/238 01SEP16 – 29OCT16 777-300 replaces -300ER on Day 567 (Day 167 from MEL)

Singapore – Munich – Manchester Since Late-June/Early-July 2016, First Class reservation is closed on following:
03JAN17 – 28FEB17 Day 246 (Day 357 from Europe)
01MAR17 – 26MAR17 Daily

Singapore – Osaka Kansai 04DEC16 – 25DEC16 A380 operates on Day 167 as SQ618/619, replacing A330-300 (A380 operates Day x23 from 26DEC16 to 01JAN17, as well as 02JAN17 and 03JAN17)
Singapore – Sydney SQ231/222 A380 replaces 777-300ER (A380 operation increases to 2 daily)

Previously reported changes:
Singapore – Barcelona – Sao Paulo Guarulhos eff 21OCT16 Barcelona – Sao Paulo sector Cancelled
Singapore – Johannesburg – Cape Town Boeing 777-300ER replaces -200ER, 4 weekly
Singapore – San Francisco eff 23OCT16 NEW 1 daily nonstop service with A350-900XWB, this replaces Singapore – Seoul Incheon – San Francisco routing
Singapore – Sapporo New Chitose Winter seasonal service operates with 777-200ER from 01DEC16 to 05JAN17 (SIN departure; Day x57 from SIN, Day x16 from CTS)
Singapore – Seoul Incheon – Los Angeles eff 23OCT16 NEW 1 daily 777-300ER operation
Singapore – Tokyo Narita – Los Angeles eff 23OCT16 Boeing 777-300ER replaces A380, 1 daily

Sounds to me that HKG and LHR will still continue with the 77WR service (With no change to its 77WN service) and JNB will get the 77WR too along with the two LAX routes. Change to the A380 on 866/865 is temporary.

Sounds like SQ also changed plans so they can get more older 77W refitting done before they figure out how to spread them across the routes. To my knowledge MEL will have 1 77W freed up, then maybe another one too. Also SQ68/67's 77W is also freed up meaning more refits possibly (Up to maybe 3 more planes can be refitted)

[SQ228]

There's still no announcement about BCN. In 3 months' time, B77Ws will be sitting on the tarmac in BCN for 24+ hours, 3 days a week unless they reconfigure their current BCN and presumably some MXP operations.

[SQfanatic]

Anyone know if 9V-SWG is undergoing a Wifi/plane refit or possibly just regular maintanance. Been out for sometime though haven't kept track of the date it has been out.

[jaywell]

Anyone know if 9V-SWG is undergoing a Wifi/plane refit or possibly just regular maintanance. Been out for sometime though haven't kept track of the date it has been out.

9V-SWG just flew SQ8877 today, which I believe is a test flight. Does this mean that the aircraft has been refitted?

[loldude333]

9V-SWG just flew SQ8877 today, which I believe is a test flight. Does this mean that the aircraft has been refitted?

Sounds very very possible. Will be interesting to see which revenue flight it operates once it returns to service.

[SQ228]

9V-SWG just flew SQ8877 today, which I believe is a test flight. Does this mean that the aircraft has been refitted?

Flightaware records SWG as having flown to PEK, returning on 11JUL. It was in constant service up until that date.

Sorry guys, but this isn't looking like a refit...

[SQfanatic]

A little too quick to judge, but I assume 9V-SWW is the next for a maps upgrade. SWT is flying 318/319, normally that gets a 77WN that is left overnight or an early morning arrival from an ad hoc substitution.

It sounds like we have 3 77WN with maps: SWU, SWV (If this is true), and SWZ. SWY, SNA, and SWW (If undergone with maintenance) have the 2D map presumably.

Also, my plans have changed. I will be traveling in January but not sure if it will be by SQ or CX. If SQ, I hope SQ1/2 have the Panasonic Voyager 3D maps and to still enjoy the comfort of a 77W. If I land up flying CX (which is probably unlikely unless we take a cheaper fare to MAA and back both ways instead of having one of the sectors be TRV on SQ), I'll let you all know but TR may be on FT instead though not sure.

[zilchster]

With regards to the cabin refits - while I feel the 2013 Y product is much newer and seemingly better and all, the 2006 Y product is still comfortable and adequate. So even if SQ doesn't refit the remaining 77W with the 2013 Y product, there is nothing to whinge or complain about.

In fact, I'll be careful what I wish for...given the industry standard is now 3-4-3 on the 77W, with BR, CI and even CA turning to the 3-4-3 config, SQ is practically in the minority of airlines operating the 77W with a 3-3-3 config. 3-3-3 is practically quite impossible to compete with airlines operating 3-4-3...if any reconfig should happen, it is possible SQ might go for the 3-4-3 which will probably mean less comfort than the 2006 Y. So be careful what you wish for.

[SQfanatic]

With regards to the cabin refits - while I feel the 2013 Y product is much newer and seemingly better and all, the 2006 Y product is still comfortable and adequate. So even if SQ doesn't refit the remaining 77W with the 2013 Y product, there is nothing to whinge or complain about.

In fact, I'll be careful what I wish for...given the industry standard is now 3-4-3 on the 77W, with BR, CI and even CA turning to the 3-4-3 config, SQ is practically in the minority of airlines operating the 77W with a 3-3-3 config. 3-3-3 is practically quite impossible to compete with airlines operating 3-4-3...if any reconfig should happen, it is possible SQ might go for the 3-4-3 which will probably mean less comfort than the 2006 Y. So be careful what you wish for.

I never meant to whine. Guess I don't need to since SFO already has a flight operated by a 77WN. If an article states they will refit all 77W, they will refit all at some point or the other. Some of us are disappointed that they are not meeting their target date. If at this rate they are going, they will either leave the 77Ws where there are at or even if they refit next month,then by the time all 77W have the 2013 products, it would be sometime in mid 2017.

[FN-GM]

[QUOTE=zilchster;20393 the 2006 Y product is still comfortable and adequate[/QUOTE]

They are now, just wait until they get to the same age of the 772's!

[SQ228]

They are now, just wait until they get to the same age of the 772's!

Let's just hope they leave the seats as they are though and not ruin them by sticking rough canvas all over them like on the 772ER refits.

[SQfanatic]

9V-SNA has not been flying for a couple of days now. I can assume it's the next to go thru maintenance and a maps upgrade from 2D to 3D maps. SWW is still flying as usual.

[SQfanatic]

In other news:

From routesonline:

Singapore Airlines last Friday (22JUL16) made additional adjustment to its planned operation to Barcelona and Milan, effective 22OCT16. The airline will no longer operate nonstop flights to Barcelona, switch to all 1-stop operation via Milan, 5 times a week.

Singapore – Milan Malpensa – Barcelona
SQ378 SIN2345 – 0555+1MXP0655+1 – 0830+1BCN 77W x15
SQ377 BCN0950 – 1130MXP1240 – 0735+1SIN 77W x26

Singapore – Milan Malpensa 1 weekly terminator flight
SQ368 SIN2345 – 0555+1MXP 77W 5
SQ367 MXP1240 – 0735+1SIN 77W 6

Sounds to me no 77WR service someone told me either it's MXP or BCN that's rumored to get PEY.

[chisquared]

Thanks for the updates, SQfanatic.

I do have one question though. What's the big deal about the update to the 3D maps? Is there something special about them that I'm missing, or is it really just that they look cooler than 2D maps?