Air Crash Investigation episode on SQ006

[concept|infinit]

Finally in its 12th season, the high production Air Crash Investigation series (or Mayday in North America) covered SQ 006.

The episode titled Caution To The Wind aired in North America last week.

This is a fantastic series. It doesn't merely dramatise, it examines in detail the build up to the incidents they cover. Likewise, I thought they covered SQ006 very well.

My only complains are those seats look nothing like SQ's old Y, they used a narrow body for the cabin footage and couldn't they get Singaporeans to play the flight crew?!

The full episode should be available on Nat Geo's site shortly as they make them available several weeks after the televised broadcast.

You can also watch it on Youtube now at the link below


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFO22KOTKVc

[SilverChris]

Was wondering what took them so long to finally have an episode of this flight.

Thanks for posting!

[boing]

The episode on MI185 was also released just a few days ago. Just saw it on youtube. It's entitled " Pushed to the limit"

[SQ_SIA]

I thought SIA firmly told productions like this to not make a documentary about SQ006 because they didnt want to endanger their famous brand?

[FN-GM]

I thought SIA firmly told productions like this to not make a documentary about SQ006 because they didnt want to endanger their famous brand?

Can they stop them?

[mr_botak]

No I don't think so - perhaps in SG, but certainly not elsewhere so long as reporting is factual.

[globetrekker84]

I thought SIA firmly told productions like this to not make a documentary about SQ006 because they didnt want to endanger their famous brand?

I think their website is doing a better job of destroying their "brand" than a single event such as 006.

[b777jubilee]

Finally in its 12th season, the high production Air Crash Investigation series (or Mayday in North America) covered SQ 006.

The episode titled Caution To The Wind aired in North America last week.

This is a fantastic series. It doesn't merely dramatise, it examines in detail the build up to the incidents they cover. Likewise, I thought they covered SQ006 very well.

My only complains are those seats look nothing like SQ's old Y, they used a narrow body for the cabin footage and couldn't they get Singaporeans to play the flight crew?!

The full episode should be available on Nat Geo's site shortly as they make them available several weeks after the televised broadcast.

You can also watch it on Youtube now at the link below


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFO22KOTKVc

some errors:

The clip mentioned that the relief pilot is Captain Ng Kheng Leng, he is FO at that time

2nd Error:

That the flight crew lose their jobs, FO Ng was retained but he left on his own accord

3rd Error:

Kebaya looks like bought from Chinatown or Arab Street

The film seems to shift lots of blame to the flight crew but put very little focus on the not up to standard CKS Airport, eg no ground radar, no proper signs to indicate runway closure, lighting up runway 5R when closed and leaving construction equipment on a runway which is lighted.

[Moviela]

I thought SIA firmly told productions like this to not make a documentary about SQ006 because they didnt want to endanger their famous brand?

I think we all look with utmost sympathy to the victims of SQ6. SIA cannot put the Genie back in the bottle. I have not seen the TV program, but did read the rather long transcript of the investigation. SIA would be well served to cooperate with such programs. Shows like this, even ones with connections to the prestiege of National Geographic, are going to take license to increase the drama in the staging of the production. The errors mentioned can be explained and corrected by SIA during production. I have worked on countless programs that had at least a grain of truth in the story. I have never seen a producer intentionally misrepresent material facts in telling the story.

It is a valuable tool to learn from the sad facts of a crash to make flying in the future more safe. This knowelege has helped to make flying as safe as it is today.

[concept|infinit]

I think we all look with utmost sympathy to the victims of SQ6. SIA cannot put the Genie back in the bottle. I have not seen the TV program, but did read the rather long transcript of the investigation. SIA would be well served to cooperate with such programs. Shows like this, even ones with connections to the prestiege of National Geographic, are going to take license to increase the drama in the staging of the production. The errors mentioned can be explained and corrected by SIA during production. I have worked on countless programs that had at least a grain of truth in the story. I have never seen a producer intentionally misrepresent material facts in telling the story.

It is a valuable tool to learn from the sad facts of a crash to make flying in the future more safe. This knowelege has helped to make flying as safe as it is today.

My sentiments exact. It would be silly from a PR perspective for SQ to ignore such productions. Working with them would allow SQ to manage the presentation at least.

b777jubilee: I was not aware of the first two points you mentioned. Thanks for sharing. And yes, the kebaya was terrible. It looked almost like a leopard print lol. But about the blame, I thought they were quite fair. They did mention for example that the airport came under heavy scrutiny for leaving the runway open and lit

boing: Interesting. I'll check it out

[KC*]

I've always felt that it was inexcusable for CKS airport not to block off the closed runway and for leaving the lights on. It was absolute negligence.

Sure, pilot and crew errors were present but to me, human errors are less inexcusable than negligence.

Just my opinion.

Obviously not that of the investigators and the authorities.

It was a very sad episode and especially to me because a lovely old lady I cared for very much perished on the flight - just a couple of days after she wished me a safe flight to another destination as we met for the last time.

[boing]

Here's the Air Crash Investigation episode on MI185.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-7MCCjJtjkQ

It does seem one sided, pinning all the blame on the pilot(suicide).

This is another show that explores both sides of the MI185 crash giving a balanced and unbiased view of the crash.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8eHB...eature=related

Back to SQ006, CKS runway lighting pertaining to runway closure didn't meet the ICAO standards at the time of accident and this was just glanced through in the accident report. Individuals make better scapegoats than organizations.

The Taiwanese authorities were actually considering prosecuting and charging the pilots in court, leaving them liable to be jailed in Taiwanese jail.
That is until the International Pilots Union stepped in and threatened that their pilots worldwide, flying for various carriers, would not fly into Taiwan unless the pilots involved are released soon.

And not many people may know this, but two aircrafts almost met the same fate as SQ006 right here in Singapore Changi Airport a few years ago. One was just metres away from certain disaster. And this two incidents occurred just days apart.

[SIA5390]

I've always felt that it was inexcusable for CKS airport not to block off the closed runway and for leaving the lights on. It was absolute negligence.

Sure, pilot and crew errors were present but to me, human errors are less inexcusable than negligence.

If I remember correctly, the lights left on for 05R were green taxi lights because it was still used as a taxiway, and the white runway lights had been turned off. The same reason they couldn't block the runway.

[RHG]

I find it very intriguing of the many critique posted. some of it does appear patronizing.

With the well known public image of SIA, most viewers will likely know the minor incorrect details such as seat colours and the golden bird on the back wall is merely cosmetic and do not signify the current decor of SIA is.

Air crash investigations, as a program has always pointed that an aircraft accident is always attributed to many factors, not just one. Even when human errors are highlighted, it is rare that the programs indicate any conscious errors on the part of the person.

If enough attention is given, the human factor was not attributed to negligence or wrongdoing on the part of the pilot. Instead, it was pointed the pilot was following every single dictated procedure.

It can be implied that he probably lost count of number of intersections, made worse by weather conditions and implied pressure by the airline to ensure no further delays. Its not remote given that the targeted segment of people are in a culture where the norm is to follow strict norms and procedures without much forethought.

As for Mi185, the initial conclusion of suicide was ruled out eventually when the issue of the rudder was brought up and the manufacturer settled out of court.

In both instances, no surviving crew was interviewed. That could have given a more accurate picture.

[lingua101]

I've always felt that it was inexcusable for CKS airport not to block off the closed runway and for leaving the lights on. It was absolute negligence.

Sure, pilot and crew errors were present but to me, human errors are less inexcusable than negligence.

Just my opinion.

Obviously not that of the investigators and the authorities.

It was a very sad episode and especially to me because a lovely old lady I cared for very much perished on the flight - just a couple of days after she wished me a safe flight to another destination as we met for the last time.

Fully agree with you.

Althought the pilots did make a mistake by ignoring the final clue, which may have prevented the accident, but the main culprit is that rainway 5R is not been blocked and the light should have been switched off.

If CKS did that, this accident will not happen, because the pilots will not see the lights