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    Should an SIA Girl sleep among passenger seats?

    Have you come across an SIA (Singapore Airlines) girl sleeping beside you on a long-haul flight? If you have, you weren't dreaming, because she was probably taking a break.

    That was what one traveller, who wanted to be known as Tan, found out after he saw some Singapore Airlines (SIA) flight attendants resting in the last few rows of the economy-class seats on his flight back to Singapore from Christchurch, New Zealand

    "I was on a long flight back, about nine hours, and I was amazed to see the stewardesses on the flight take their rest among the passengers.

    "Despite this, some passengers kept asking them for drinks even though they were clearly on their break," Tan told The New Paper.

    He also questioned why the crew was not given a private rest area away from the view of other passengers.

    It is understood that there are no bunks for in-flight crew onboard some SIA flights to and from Christchurch and Auckland as the aircraft used for the flights -- a variant of the Boeing 777 -- do not come with crew bunks. That has been the situation since last July.

    SIA spokesman Nicholas Ionides said the absence of bunks on these flights was in line with guidelines set by the Air Operator Certificate Requirements. It states that rest is only mandatory for cabin crew members who are on duty for 14 hours or more.

    "Notwithstanding that, we set aside a block of economy-class seats on medium-haul flights on the particular aircraft type for our crew to rest during breaks," added Ionides.

    On such flights, six economy-class seats are set aside for the crew members to rest. On average, SIA has 14 to 15 cabin crew members and three cockpit on a flight.

    However, the airline did not comment on why crew bunks were no longer provided for those working that particular route.

    Meanwhile, image consultant Elaine Heng said that the sight of the crew sleeping could adversely impact the airline's branding and image.

    "The crew represents the airline. They're expected to be well groomed and professional, but you can't do that when told to sleep and rest in full view of the passengers," she added.

    Flight attendants who spoke to the same paper said that such situations create an awkward environment between crew and passengers. One crew said the rest seats are marked only by a red sticker.

    "Most times, passengers don't even know what the red stickers mean and some passengers get annoyed when we tell them those seats are meant for cabin crew use," he said.

    Another flight attendant lamented that because they are resting in the cabin, passengers would still approach them for service.

    "I rest very little during these flights, which is exhausting, considering the journey to Auckland is nearly 10 hours," she said.

    One brand consultant, who declined to be named, said the response from the flight attendants reflect the need for private rest facilities.

    Passengers may not know the attendants are on their breaks, and this could lead to the perception that flight attendants are sleeping on the job.

    Regular SIA passenger Dexter Ng, 23, told Yahoo! Singapore the crew should not be blamed in this case.

    "From a humane point of view, it is understandable for them to rest because it can get pretty exhausting.

    "But it is up to the management to provide them a private resting area because it will create an impression that the flight attendants are unprofessional," he said.

    http://sg.news.yahoo.com/blogs/singa...051422125.html

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    They were resting in uniform? That's surprising.

    I have seen pilots on pax seats but their uniform is not obvious.
    I have also seen stewardess changed out of her uniform and went to the crew rest.

    If they have to rest on pax's seat then shouldn't they change out of their uniform first?
    Last edited by SQueeze; 14 June 2011, 08:21 PM.

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    • #3
      SQ could install a movable curtain around the seats allocated for rest. Other airlines are doing it, so why can't SQ.

      And according to SQ's management, crew do not need a rest period when on duty for less than 14hrs and they are being "so nice" to provide crew rest seats on a 10+ hrs flight. Compare this to TG which allocates 6 seats for crew rest on a 772 (13 crew) on a merely short 5hrs flight!
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      • #4
        I recall TG years ago on their BKK - JFK route on the A340-500 reserving 6 business class seats for crew rest. That's what I call nice. In hindsight that's a bit strange.....surely the A345 has a cabin rest area??

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        • #5
          Originally posted by SQueeze View Post
          They were resting in uniform? That's surprising.

          I have seen pilots on pax seats but their uniform is not obvious.
          I have also seen stewardess changed out of her uniform and went to the crew rest.

          If they have to rest on pax's seat then shouldn't they change out of their uniform first?
          If they were on their break they would not have been in uniform.

          Originally posted by jambalaya View Post
          I recall TG years ago on their BKK - JFK route on the A340-500 reserving 6 business class seats for crew rest. That's what I call nice. In hindsight that's a bit strange.....surely the A345 has a cabin rest area??
          I recal once flying AKL-BKK with TG on an A346 and the crew asked the two of us seated in the rear J cabin to move to the front so the crew could have that cabin for themselves to rest.

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          • #6
            In OP's link, there is a photo.
            These stewardesses were resting in uniform.

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            • #7
              In the old days, the 747-300s did NOT have crew rest areas and the last row of seats were reserved for them - no such thing as crew rest areas then....

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              • #8
                this is more of a PR issue and customer awareness.

                most airlines who use such arrangements such as QF, EK and others would block off these seats and demarcate them with moveable curtains. UA would also block off the F seat with a movable curtain.

                On airlines which are known to cut costs, and not market themselves as premium airlines such as UA would have similar arrangements but pax are aware that the crew are resting.

                Complaining on social media doesn't necessary achieve the motive of the complainer.

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                • #9
                  can understand them using the blanket to keep warm I'm always freezing on SQ flights so dread to think how they cope!

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                  • #10
                    I vaguely recalled FT's thread title was "SIA Girl slept WITH passenger"

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by j.lin View Post
                      I vaguely recalled FT's thread title was "SIA Girl slept WITH passenger"

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                      • #12
                        I can understand how it may affect the image of the iconic Singapore Girl. I can also understand that it is less than ideal situation for the poor FA.

                        What disappoints me is that passengers would actually disturb the poor girl who was trying to rest and make her serve them instead. Sigh.

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                        • #13
                          Yup, resting should not be in uniforms. Especially not on economy seats (and if they are like me, sleeping with mouth ajar on economy seats).

                          I've see the crew in T-shirts on the SQ SIN - LAX A345 non-stop back when there was still executive economy. Recognized his face as he was serving my meal, then saw him in T-shirt coming out of what I suppose was the crew rest door when I went back to grab a drink.

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                          • #14
                            Maybe the rest time is too short to change ? Do they have special changing areas or do they fight with everyone else for the toilets ?

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by SQueeze View Post
                              In OP's link, there is a photo.
                              These stewardesses were resting in uniform.
                              So they were!. I didn't click on the link. Very strange to seem them resting in uniform.

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