MH's A388 to fly to LHR, SYD & AMS

[hsf]

Maybe not so much now, but a while ago, the A380 would likely have been considered to be a prestigious acquisition.... the newest, latest, biggest...

[jadivindra]

jadivindra:
The contrary is to be said for MH. It's MINE and YOURS (if you pay tax in Malaysia) tax money that's being spent (unnecessarily).

Hi Leo youre right on the above but you know how they are like, if they dont spend it there they will spend it elsewhere for some political motive or something.At least this way everyone and not one particular group gets to benefit from it.

I disagree with the idea that you have to have an A380 to "stay ahead or a least with the competition [sic]". You can do that with a B777-300ER, or any other modern jetliner.

Kelvegoh, I did not mention that you need an A380 for to stay ahead of competition but exactly what you echo. Only in this case there are no T7-300ER to talk about as the decision made some years back for new hardware is the A380.

[leo]

jadivindra: I see that you are certainly passionate about MH. I am too - love their service and human touch which SQ sometimes lack.

Nevertheless, you have to understand that SQ aircraft purchases are not financed by the tax-payers of Singapore.

The contrary is to be said for MH. It's MINE and YOURS (if you pay tax in Malaysia) tax money that's being spent (unnecessarily).

[flyguy]

ooops - yes its D7 - and not AX - "armani exhange"

[SQflyergirl]

a very real threat to MH comes more from AK/AX

you mean D7?

[kelvgoh]

While I agree that the dugong may not be the most suitable plane for MH under current circumstances,but in any bussiness it pays to stay ahead or a least with the competition.(Competion here does not mean SQ but all carriers operating on the kangaroo route)

Also MH has a reputation in Australia and UK for being a good and safe airline to travel on, hence with good hardware it will only work better for them.

I disagree with the idea that you have to have an A380 to "stay ahead or a least with the competition [sic]". You can do that with a B777-300ER, or any other modern jetliner.

What matters is that you have things like comfortable seats, good seat pitch, good IFE, good catering and most importantly, quality service.

It's not about what type of aircraft you fly to where. Some people may fly the A380 once for the novelty of it. But once that is done and dusted, other factors like timing, cost, value-for-money etc come into play.

Put it this way, people who participate on this board (and other aviation boards) may know the difference between a A330-200 and a 777-300ER. But the truth is these people are probably but 10, maximum 20 per cent of people who travel by air. Most travellers don't give a damn as to what they fly, as long as its cheap and/or convenient.

I'm not suggesting that it is relevant to MH specifically, but in any sort of business it's important to realise your own strengths and weaknesses, and seek to capitalise on your strengths to win your own loyal following. Any sentiment of vanity is a sure ticket to financial ruin.

[MAN Flyer]

Ya also they ordered the A330,747 and 777 based on "what he has, I have to have too".
If Sq have them we also want them?

Same logic right?

Imagine if one day they have a MH/SQ shuttle service on the kangaroo route for dugong flights to weed of traffic from middle east airlines.

Your argument .........is childish at best.

Oh the irony...

[flyguy]

a very real threat to MH comes more from AK/AX - as once AX gets a go-ahead to fly KUL-SYD perhapd next year (altho now the malaysian govt is not giving in to air asia x yet) - MH even with its A380 service - will definitely be affected and the only way MH can maintain its seats is by giving deep discounts which will mean more load but zero prfitability - as can be seen over the last 18 mths on how MH reacted to AK/AX fares on same routes even though AX is a LCC.
And once AX decides to exercise its rights to fly to Orly, Paris - MH load to Europe will also come under strain; and if AX ups its daily frequencies into Stansdad - MH's KUL-LHR whether on its A380 or not will suffer.
That is why MH must concentrate on improving its economics and most impt its pax yield ie like substuiting its 744s for new aircraft like the 773ER - and not the A380 which it has to try very hard to keep its load up.

[singaporeairlinesboi]

Monkey see, Monkey do

[SINFJ]

Unfortunately, i don't foresee any profitability for MH in the near future, unless they bleed by charging LCC-ish prices to bring pax from SIN into KUL for onward connections.

I am not saying that MH has less better connections than Golden Goose (have to admit that they serve more market) but the logistical decisions and somehow the fact that they are not in *A, OW or ST draws people away from them

On the software, MH really have impeccable service and human even I find too mechanical on Golden Goose sometimes. Bring back the glory of the mid 90s

[jadivindra]

there have been few posts on similiar opinions as to MH buying the A380s - and on its seating capacity - u can just google and find out even from MH press releases. As for filling seats well as is its no secret that MH cant even fill up its 2 daily flights from SYD-KUL-LHR even before the sep 08 crisis - and if MH wants to offer cheap throw away fares to fill up its A380 - then of course they can fill the seats - but whether MH wants to be profitable and operate the A380 is a different story.

While I agree that the dugong may not be the most suitable plane for MH under current circumstances,but in any bussiness it pays to stay ahead or a least with the competition.(Competion here does not mean SQ but all carriers operating on the kangaroo route)

Also MH has a reputation in Australia and UK for being a good and safe airline to travel on, hence with good hardware it will only work better for them.

Having said that they do need some alliance of some sort to maximize seat utilisation expecialiy on the Airbus jumbo.

Unfortunately I cant find the said press release but iMHO
I reckon they wont bump 555 seats on that plane.

Imagine if one day they have a MH/SQ shuttle service on the kangaroo route for dugong flights to weed of traffic from middle east airlines.
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[flyguy]

there have been few posts on similiar opinions as to MH buying the A380s - and on its seating capacity - u can just google and find out even from MH press releases. As for filling seats well as is its no secret that MH cant even fill up its 2 daily flights from SYD-KUL-LHR even before the sep 08 crisis - and if MH wants to offer cheap throw away fares to fill up its A380 - then of course they can fill the seats - but whether MH wants to be profitable and operate the A380 is a different story.

[jadivindra]

the A380 is in a different category altogether - from the A330, 777s and the 747s.

And so is the 747 compared to A330 and all other plane types.

Capacity wise A380 450/470 pax (Based on QF/SQ a/c), 747 390pax (MH 744), hence if MH can have no seats available on some routes ex Australia then I see no reason why they cant fill the A380's.

Your argument that they follow SQ is childish at best.Also can you please vrify where did you get the info that MH is puting in 550 pax on their plane?

At the time the order was placed the economy was booming and hence taking all logistics into account a decision was made to replace the aging jumbo's by 2011.

[flyguy]

the A380 is in a different category altogether - from the A330, 777s and the 747s.

[jadivindra]

IMHO as a resident on KUL, the A380's were ordered purely based on "what he has, I have to have too" kind of mindset. Disastrous for a once, "illustrious" airline - financed by the people of Malaysia.[/QUOTE]

Ya also they ordered the A330,747 and 777 based on "what he has, I have to have too".
If Sq have them we also want them?



Same logic right?