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  • SkyTeam, the fastest growing airline alliance on the planet?

    Just look at this article below:

    Potential future full members
    Note that there is much speculation about non-aligned airlines joining one of the global alliances. The list below includes airlines that have expressed their desire or are in the ongoing negotiations to join SkyTeam.
    1) Air Algérie - In 2006, Air Algérie applied for admission to the alliance; its application has been sponsored by Air France. Air Algérie has been on the waiting list for membership since 2005 and plans to join the alliance in late 2008 or early 2009. SkyTeam hopes to integrate Air Algérie into the alliance and begin the use of electronic ticketing and launch a frequent flyer program for the airline named Air Algérie Plus. The SkyTeam also anticipates the purchase of new aircraft by Air Algérie.
    2) China Airlines - China Airlines already has extensive codeshare agreements with Delta Air Lines, Korean Air, Northwest Airlines, Czech Airlines, and Alitalia, and their vice president has also announced an intention to apply for membership by 2008. They are set to be announced as the next full member of SkyTeam in late 2008 and have been in informal discussions since Fall 2007. In June 2008 the carrier have signed memorandum of co-operation with China Southern Airlines in the areas of passenger, cargo, maintenance, and ground handling operations
    3) China Eastern Airlines - Air France, along with China Southern are lobbying at China Eastern Airlines to join the alliance, but the airline is also considering joining oneworld as they have codeshare agreements with American Airlines, British Airways, Japan Airlines and Qantas. At the moment, the chinese government, is considering a merger with Shanghai Airlines, which is a member of Star Alliance.
    4) Garuda Indonesia - In June 2008, Garuda Indonesia has signed a memorandum of cooperation with Korean Air, in which Korean Air will support Garuda in joining SkyTeam.
    5) Gol Airlines - SkyTeam is continuing to pursue its plans to add a Brazilian carrier in the alliance. It "has been talking with Gol in Brazil", says van Wijk. Gol is also the owner of Varig.
    6) Jet Airways - Leo van Wijk stated in a statement that SkyTeam is looking to add an Indian carrier in the near future counting on Jet Airways and Kingfisher Airlines.
    7) Kingfisher Airlines - Is in informal discussions to join the alliance.
    8) Malaysia Airlines - Malaysia Airlines reached an agreement with Air France-KLM to upgrade their codeshare agreements into an alliance in 2006. While there is no timetable for Malaysia Airlines to join SkyTeam, their current restructuring plan puts 2009-2010 as the target years. Malaysia Airlines also reached an agreement with Alitalia and China Southern Airlines, SkyTeam members, to start code-sharing in 2007.
    9) Vietnam Airlines - In a statement, Leo van Wijk stated that SkyTeam is currently in formal discussions with Vietnam Airlines, and is expected to conclude talks this year, paving the way for the airline's entry next year. The airline currently codeshares with China Southern Airlines and Korean Air. However, Japan Airlines from oneworld is lobbying the airline to join oneworld.
    10) Air Tahiti Nui considers joining SkyTeam after reviewing options with other alliances which all are well established in the South Pacific

    Potential future associate members
    1) Bangkok Airways - SkyTeam has been speaking with Bangkok *Airways of Thailand about a *possible affiliate membership. [19]
    2) flyLAL Lithuanian Airlines is invited to join SkyTeam alliance as an associate member following a two year negotiation. Date of admission to SkyTeam alliance is to be confirmed soon. FlyLAL already has sharecode flights with KLM and Aeroflot. [22]
    3) Uzbekistan Airways - Have announced in July 2008 that they are set to become a SkyTeam member after being sponsored by Korean Air.

    Is SkyTeam going to take over Star Alliance very soon, in terms of no. of airlines and SkyTrax's service standard ratings?

  • #2
    Originally posted by SQalMundo View Post
    Is SkyTeam going to take over Star Alliance very soon, in terms of no. of airlines and SkyTrax's service standard ratings?
    You've got to be kidding.
    ‘Lean into the sharp points’

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    • #3
      That article, as well as the one you cited in a similar thread you started in the Star Alliance sub forum look familiar; wikipedia?

      Unless the airline/s in question has actually formally named an alliance it's going to join, the entries in the "potential members" section read a lot like speculative bulldust to me, like discussions in "What airline is joining *A/ST/OW next?"-style threads that get started from time to time on TOF. Not trying to be completely critical or dismissive here mind you - but do please take these things with a huge grain of salt.
      Last edited by KeithMEL; 22 September 2008, 02:42 PM.
      All opinions shared are my own, and are not necessarily those of my employer or any other organisation of which I'm affiliated to.

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      • #4
        Scary Team overtaking Star and OW? What kind of stuff are you smoking?

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Nick C View Post
          Scary Team overtaking Star and OW? What kind of stuff are you smoking?
          They're actually ahead of OW numerically (number of members, market share etc). But they're even more lacking geographically than OW, and as for overrall quality...............
          All opinions shared are my own, and are not necessarily those of my employer or any other organisation of which I'm affiliated to.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by KeithMEL View Post
            They're actually ahead of OW numerically (number of members, market share etc). But they're even more lacking geographically than OW, and as for overrall quality...............
            I think you agree, OW is probably not trying to maximize the number of member airlines or market share.

            OP strikes me as being either provocative or incredibly naive.
            ‘Lean into the sharp points’

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            • #7
              Size isn't everything you know!!!!

              Also, for example, i don't see BOTH of the Indian carriers joining. The one that comes second would most likely try to join another alliance.

              Malaysian has also said for several years, certainly in Malaysian local press they are not looking to formally join an alliance. Like many other things Malaysian they tend to like the idea of being big enough to survive by themselves.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by jjpb3 View Post
                I think you agree, OW is probably not trying to maximize the number of member airlines or market share.
                Yes indeed, and I realise that the perspectives of both pax and airlines do not necessarily go together as I personally would like OW to be a bit bigger so that I can travel with greater ease in places like SE Asia (HKG isn't exactly a convenient hub for SE Asia geographically). And I almost wept when LX dropped out of member-elect status - though a certain Big Airline wasn't overly thrilled with them joining up. But hey being an exclusive club seems to have worked out for them, according to the combined profits/losses figures.

                I now get Nick C's point more fully when he mentioned 'overtaking' though - apologies for the slight misreading before.
                Last edited by KeithMEL; 22 September 2008, 04:23 PM.
                All opinions shared are my own, and are not necessarily those of my employer or any other organisation of which I'm affiliated to.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by SQalMundo View Post
                  Is SkyTeam going to take over Star Alliance very soon, in terms of no. of airlines and SkyTrax's service standard ratings?
                  Except Malaysia Airlines (but they seem not really interested joining Skyteam) and Jet Airways, the others airlines that article is citing are only average in the best case.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by KeithMEL View Post
                    That article, as well as the one you cited in a similar thread you started in the Star Alliance sub forum look familiar; wikipedia?

                    Unless the airline/s in question has actually formally named an alliance it's going to join, the entries in the "potential members" section read a lot like speculative bulldust to me, like discussions in "What airline is joining *A/ST/OW next?"-style threads that get started from time to time on TOF. Not trying to be completely critical or dismissive here mind you - but do please take these things with a huge grain of salt.
                    Indeed.

                    If it's on W*******a then I think a lorry load of salt would be more appropriate.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by KeithMEL View Post
                      They're actually ahead of OW numerically (number of members, market share etc). But they're even more lacking geographically than OW, and as for overrall quality...............
                      Originally posted by KeithMEL View Post
                      I now get Nick C's point more fully when he mentioned 'overtaking' though - apologies for the slight misreading before.
                      No worries

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                      • #12
                        If you believe that all the rumours are true then CO will have merged with 17 other major airlines and now be by far the biggest airline in the world.

                        Pretty much every major airline not currently in an alliance is rumoured to join one or more of the alliances. They won't all happen - far from it.
                        ..

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