Air France To Introduce Singapore-Jakarta

[B727]

This month's edition of air France inflight Magazine (#199, Novembre 2013) has a cover story on Jakarta.

The photo on the front cover shows a fleet of Pinisi at the port of Sunda Kelapa.

[lfc]

This should explained it

http://centreforaviation.com/analysi...-expand-127749

[SilverChris]

Since I am a bit bored today. I went to Changi website to count the number of flight from KUL and BKJ.

KUL only 39
BKK 25, DMK 6

so CGK is still the winner

So it is! I stand corrected

[lingua101]

I think KUL takes the top spot, but CGK still wins in terms of passengers carried.

Since I am a bit bored today. I went to Changi website to count the number of flight from KUL and BKJ.

KUL only 39
BKK 25, DMK 6

so CGK is still the winner

[UMD]

According to this article in FT , SIN - CGK is the world's second biggest International route behind only HKG - TPE.

Here is the quote from the article:

Although Indonesia has been hit hard by the global sell-off in emerging markets in recent weeks, no one has told passengers on the more than 40 daily flights from Jakarta to Singapore, which has become the world’s fastest-growing major international air route.

The number of available seats jumped by 24 per cent in the past year, according to the Centre for Aviation, a market research company, after the Indonesia and Singapore governments raised a cap on flights between the two countries earlier this year.

With 130,000 return seats a week by November, Jakarta-Singapore will be the second biggest international route after Hong Kong-Taiwan and ahead of Hong-Kong-Shanghai, Dubai-Doha and New York JFK-London Heathrow.

[SilverChris]

Is CGK the most frequency destination out of SIN?

It must be that or BKK.

I think KUL takes the top spot, but CGK still wins in terms of passengers carried.

[MAN Flyer]

Is the traffic really that busy between SIN and CGK?

Absolutely.

Is CGK the most frequency destination out of SIN?

It must be that or BKK.

[lingua101]

I agree. Can't wait for another legacy carrier to serve this route.

Looking at changi website for today arrival, there is more than 40 daily flights between SIN and CGK right. 9 flights each for SQ and GA. Then follow 6 flights each for QZ and JT. 4 flights each on TR, RI, and VF. and 1 more flight on SJ.

So wonder, will other airlines follow AF. Is the traffic really that busy between SIN and CGK?

Is CGK the most frequency destination out of SIN?

[9V-JKL]

TK does not have traffic rights between SIN/CGK.

[flying.monkeyz]

Has TK stop serving this route?

[UMD]

promising as they may sell SIN-CGK. another option as now only SQ and GA serves these route for non-budget carrier.

I agree. Can't wait for another legacy carrier to serve this route.

[lingua101]

Sound promising as in the fare or as in AF will probably be able to sell SIN - CGK? I beleive the bilateral agreement between the French and the Indonesian government allow AF to have a 5th freedom flight from SIN - CGK. If not mistaken, AF has 5th freedom rights from SIN, KUL, BKK, and CMB to CGK and DPS.

promising as they may sell SIN-CGK. another option as now only SQ and GA serves these route for non-budget carrier.

[ek&sq]

It seems no more A380 between CDG-SIN but rather double 77W with one extended to CGK

It's still the one daily 77W - just retimed. They will consider adding a second daily CDG-SIN-CDG flight if there's demand for one.

[UMD]

Sound promising as in the fare or as in AF will probably be able to sell SIN - CGK? I beleive the bilateral agreement between the French and the Indonesian government allow AF to have a 5th freedom flight from SIN - CGK. If not mistaken, AF has 5th freedom rights from SIN, KUL, BKK, and CMB to CGK and DPS.

[lingua101]

Excellent. Certainly hope they have the SIN-CGK vv. rights. With both GA and SQ roundtrip J fares pushing the USD1k range, the arrival of AF and BA cannot come soon enough.

I cannot find anything from AF website. But KVS shows this for 4-April-2014

[KVS Availability Tool 7.2.4/Diamond - Fares/PSH/RU]

SIN  Singapore Changi SG [WSSS]
CGK  Jakarta Soekarno-Hatta Intl ID [WIII]
R/T  04 Apr 2014 | Economy-Low

Carrier    From    To    Fare      Cur   AdvanceP  Min  Max  Fare Basis | Travel Period
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  ---  --------------------------
AF         SIN     JKT       271   SGD        ***       360  TSFSG
AF         SIN     JKT       341   SGD        ***       360  QSFSG
AF         SIN     JKT       361   SGD        ***       360  LSFSG
AF         SIN     JKT       391   SGD        ***       360  HSFSG
AF         SIN     JKT       432   SGD        ***       360  KSFSG
AF         SIN     JKT       502   SGD        ***       360  USFSG
AF         SIN     JKT       542   SGD        ***       360  MFFSG
AF         SIN     JKT       582   SGD        ***       360  BFFSG
AF         SIN     JKT       602   SGD        ***       360  AFFSG
AF         SIN     JKT       622   SGD        ***       360  YFFSG
AF         SIN     JKT       703   SGD        ***       360  SFFSG
AF         SIN     JKT       803   SGD        ***       360  WFFSG
AF         SIN     JKT       883   SGD        ***       360  ZFFSG
AF         SIN     JKT      1174   SGD        ***       360  IFFSG
AF         SIN     JKT      1275   SGD        ***       360  DFFSG
AF         SIN     JKT      1375   SGD        ***       360  CFFSG

Sound promising