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  • StarG
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    I have never taken the NEX before, so I can only say that the Limousine Bus is very convenient and IMHO comfortable enough for the journey. The last time I took a taxi from NRT to town was in 1997 when I didn't know better.

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  • Kyo
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    Originally posted by phaleesy View Post
    I have no recollection of what you’ve told me before.


    I won't be repeating it in public, but I'll clarify this with you next time I see you. You've forgotten, simple...

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  • HUGE AL
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    Originally posted by SQ218 View Post
    Yes, you definitely have to lug your luggage up/down stairs at Tokyo Station, Shibuya Station and Shinjuku Station. And zig-zag in the tunnels beneath...

    I was there in March. If you use the New South Entrance of Shinjuku, all you need to do is take the escalator up into the entrance and the NEX platform is only like 10 meters from the ticketing barrier on the left give or take a meter or two. Platform 5 & 6 for Narita Airport. Funny thing is the escalator takes you down the stairs and you have to walk up the stairs if you are arriving.

    Shinjuku Station layout guide
    I don't necessarily call wheeling your luggage around the station on escalators and elevators "lugging one's luggage." Shinjuku is large, but extremely abundant with signs and ease of use. Tons of people use NEX every day. To make them walk up and down stairs with luggage wouldn't make any sense.

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  • phaleesy
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    Originally posted by Kyo View Post
    Yes, no fault of mine - I've told you the reason previously, so I don't think it's necessary me repeating it in public.
    The way I see it – you took the wrong train from the wrong platform. Unless the JR station had put the wrong platform number on the destination board, or the destination signage on both the train and the board were wrong, or a JR staff had given you that wrong information, it was nobody’s fault but yours.

    I have no recollection of what you’ve told me before. I am bombarded with information every day – people tell me how much they earn, how often and when they last had sex, what they eat, their health concerns, wedding plans, car problems, childcare issues, shopping, holidays, FFPs, flight details, hotel stays, latest conquests… I cannot retain everyone’s trivial matters in my little brain!

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  • SQ218
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    Originally posted by phaleesy View Post
    If you don't know your way around and have a lot of luggage, take the bus. Sit like a lemon and be chauffeured door to door. Shinjuku can be rather scary for the uninitiated. You'd have to lug your suitcases up and down the stairs at certain stations - can't remember about SHinjuku.
    Yes, you definitely have to lug your luggage up/down stairs at Tokyo Station, Shibuya Station and Shinjuku Station. And zig-zag in the tunnels beneath...[/QUOTE]

    I was there in March. If you use the New South Entrance of Shinjuku, all you need to do is take the escalator up into the entrance and the NEX platform is only like 10 meters from the ticketing barrier on the left give or take a meter or two. Platform 5 & 6 for Narita Airport. Funny thing is the escalator takes you down the stairs and you have to walk up the stairs if you are arriving.

    Shinjuku Station layout guide

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  • Kyo
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    Originally posted by HUGE AL View Post
    Do keep in mind that these quoted prices include a ¥2,000 Suica Card.

    Who in the world takes the train back to NRT?
    Oh that's right, they could just permanently stay in Japan.

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  • HUGE AL
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    Originally posted by Kyo View Post
    Here is a link to the NEX prices.

    Here they are for easy reference:

    Round-trip
    5,500yen (regular) 8,000yen (Green/First-Class)

    One-way
    3,500yen (regular) 5,000yen (Green/First-Class)
    Do keep in mind that these quoted prices include a ¥2,000 Suica Card.


    Who in the world takes the train back to NRT?

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  • Kyo
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    Originally posted by phaleesy View Post
    No fault of yours? Presumably you were on the right platform but the train driver decided to go the opposite direction?
    Yes, no fault of mine - I've told you the reason previously, so I don't think it's necessary me repeating it in public.

    I take the bus back to NRT sometimes because of the schedule of my flights. (Early morning departures, so it's always the first limo bus)
    Sounds like another vote for the bus.

    If you don't know your way around and have a lot of luggage, take the bus. Sit like a lemon and be chauffeured door to door. Shinjuku can be rather scary for the uninitiated. You'd have to lug your suitcases up and down the stairs at certain stations - can't remember about SHinjuku.
    Yes, you definitely have to lug your luggage up/down stairs at Tokyo Station, Shibuya Station and Shinjuku Station. And zig-zag in the tunnels beneath...

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  • Dent@SUB
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    Originally posted by Kyo View Post
    The following example (calculated down to the minute) is for Narita - Hilton Shinjuku. It's described exactly as what I went through, so it was, at least for me, accurate. Your own mileage may vary.

    Japanese trains, including the NEX run precisely on time. They are never early and they are never late.

    The reason I missed my first ever flight was because I was on the wrong train in the opposite direction three years ago on the NEX through no fault of my own. Some of you have heard the story, some haven't. Not something I want to go into here.

    I'll settle this debacle like so - official NEX booking engine receipt (remember, trains are ALWAYS on time, never early, never late):

    [Reservation details]--------------------------------------------

    -Date: Month:02, Day:23, Year:2010
    -Train: Narita Express(Shinjuku) 5
    -Boarding station: Shinjuku (06:51)
    -Destination station: Narita Airport(Terminal 1) (08:10)
    -Receipt Window: Shinjuku
    -Receive Date: Month:02, Day:22, Year:2010
    -Adult: 1 person(s)
    -Child: 0 person(s)
    -Seat type: Green (First-Class)
    -Smoking preference: Non-Smoking (required)
    -Window / Passageside: Window
    -Part seat: No (Adjacent Seat Only)

    Total travel time: 81 minutes precisely. Then you have to exit the station (finding the RIGHT exit nearest to your shuttle bus is also not as easy as it sounds for someone who hasn't done this before - there must be like six exits, and I had to ask the ticket control station), with luggage, presumably - find the correct shuttle bus stand , which is easily 10 minutes (91 mins now). You then have to wait for the bus to depart, which could be every 10-15 minutes (potentially 101-106 minutes now). Assume a time-saving of 5 minutes if you take a taxi immediately (86 minutes). The ride will take around 10 minutes, which is 96 minutes to a more likely 111-116 minutes. That's on the verge of hitting almost two hours door to door.

    Here is a link to the NEX prices.

    Here they are for easy reference:

    Round-trip
    5,500yen (regular) 8,000yen (Green/First-Class)

    One-way
    3,500yen (regular) 5,000yen (Green/First-Class)

    And why isn't anyone mentioning the cost of a taxi from the station to the hotel (assuming Hilton Shinjuku)? 1,500 yen easily.

    Limousine Bus: 3,000 yen flat-rate each way. The Hilton hotel concierge will also tell you 90 minutes, more or less depending on the traffic at the time of day (my example is for an early morning arrival/departure as I regularly take red-eye flights). Plus you don't have to go through the hassle of dragging your luggage in and out everywhere, up and down different platforms/levels. You arrive, you buy a ticket at the entrance, you wait for the bus (15 minute-intervals), you get on the bus, you arrive at your hotel entrance. And the buses are quite passable, I'd say - although I *am* surprised to hear the HUGE one doesn't hire a hotel car/limousine to ferry him to-and-from NRT, as we all know he normally lives LARGE..?

    MAN Flyer, ask your brother to take the Limousine bus one-way and the NEX the other way. Let's see which one he prefers. That's what I did back in Feb and I'm recommending the Limo bus all the way. Cheaper, easier, and hardly uncomfortable.

    I stand by my recommendation of the bus. It's been tested/tried and true. I also took the bus for the 4th time in the opposite direction to re-verify for my own future reference back in Feb.
    +1 for the Bus...

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  • phaleesy
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    Originally posted by Kyo View Post
    The reason I missed my first ever flight was because I was on the wrong train in the opposite direction three years ago on the NEX through no fault of my own.

    I stand by my recommendation of the bus. It's been tested/tried and true. I also took the bus for the 4th time in the opposite direction to re-verify for my own future reference back in Feb.
    No fault of yours? Presumably you were on the right platform but the train driver decided to go the opposite direction?

    I'd compare the departure times of both buses and trains on arrival before making a decision. Some bus departures are not that frequent but you could take the earliest departure to the nearest hotel in the vicinity and walk from there if you know your way around.

    I think trains are a lot faster than buses from NRT during the evening rush hour.

    I take the bus back to NRT sometimes because of the schedule of my flights. (Early morning departures, so it's always the first limo bus)

    If you don't know your way around and have a lot of luggage, take the bus. Sit like a lemon and be chauffeured door to door. Shinjuku can be rather scary for the uninitiated. You'd have to lug your suitcases up and down the stairs at certain stations - can't remember about SHinjuku.

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  • Kyo
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    The following example (calculated down to the minute) is for Narita - Hilton Shinjuku. It's described exactly as what I went through, so it was, at least for me, accurate. Your own mileage may vary.

    Japanese trains, including the NEX run precisely on time. They are never early and they are never late.

    The reason I missed my first ever flight was because I was on the wrong train in the opposite direction three years ago on the NEX through no fault of my own. Some of you have heard the story, some haven't. Not something I want to go into here.

    I'll settle this debacle like so - official NEX booking engine receipt (remember, trains are ALWAYS on time, never early, never late):

    [Reservation details]--------------------------------------------

    -Date: Month:02, Day:23, Year:2010
    -Train: Narita Express(Shinjuku) 5
    -Boarding station: Shinjuku (06:51)
    -Destination station: Narita Airport(Terminal 1) (08:10)
    -Receipt Window: Shinjuku
    -Receive Date: Month:02, Day:22, Year:2010
    -Adult: 1 person(s)
    -Child: 0 person(s)
    -Seat type: Green (First-Class)
    -Smoking preference: Non-Smoking (required)
    -Window / Passageside: Window
    -Part seat: No (Adjacent Seat Only)

    Total travel time: 81 minutes precisely. Then you have to exit the station (finding the RIGHT exit nearest to your shuttle bus is also not as easy as it sounds for someone who hasn't done this before - there must be like six exits, and I had to ask the ticket control station), with luggage, presumably - find the correct shuttle bus stand , which is easily 10 minutes (91 mins now). You then have to wait for the bus to depart, which could be every 10-15 minutes (potentially 101-106 minutes now). Assume a time-saving of 5 minutes if you take a taxi immediately (86 minutes). The ride will take around 10 minutes, which is 96 minutes to a more likely 111-116 minutes. That's on the verge of hitting almost two hours door to door.

    Here is a link to the NEX prices.

    Here they are for easy reference:

    Round-trip
    5,500yen (regular) 8,000yen (Green/First-Class)

    One-way
    3,500yen (regular) 5,000yen (Green/First-Class)

    And why isn't anyone mentioning the cost of a taxi from the station to the hotel (assuming Hilton Shinjuku)? 1,500 yen easily.

    Limousine Bus: 3,000 yen flat-rate each way. The Hilton hotel concierge will also tell you 90 minutes, more or less depending on the traffic at the time of day (my example is for an early morning arrival/departure as I regularly take red-eye flights). Plus you don't have to go through the hassle of dragging your luggage in and out everywhere, up and down different platforms/levels. You arrive, you buy a ticket at the entrance, you wait for the bus (15 minute-intervals), you get on the bus, you arrive at your hotel entrance. And the buses are quite passable, I'd say - although I *am* surprised to hear the HUGE one doesn't hire a hotel car/limousine to ferry him to-and-from NRT, as we all know he normally lives LARGE..?

    MAN Flyer, ask your brother to take the Limousine bus one-way and the NEX the other way. Let's see which one he prefers. That's what I did back in Feb and I'm recommending the Limo bus all the way. Cheaper, easier, and hardly uncomfortable.

    I stand by my recommendation of the bus. It's been tested/tried and true. I also took the bus for the 4th time in the opposite direction to re-verify for my own future reference back in Feb.
    Last edited by Kyo; 19 October 2010, 10:26 AM.

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  • milehighj
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    Originally posted by HUGE AL View Post
    I've never had a bus take under 1.5 - 2 hours to or from NRT. NEX is just over an hour. Add a 5 minute cab ride and you're golden.
    TCAT to NRT is scheduled for 60-65 mins and actually took 50 last week.

    From TCAT it's 5-10 mins cab to the Ginza hotels, and more importantly, major sushi run venues...

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  • HUGE AL
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    Originally posted by Kyo View Post
    Fair point, my arrivals are all at 0600-0700. My departures have all been around 0800, and I'm counting door-to-door times from Hilton Shinjuku (thus including a shuttle transfer to Shinjuku station). Still, I found a difference of at least 30 mins, if not more like 40-45 mins, as time saved.
    I've never had a bus take under 1.5 - 2 hours to or from NRT. NEX is just over an hour. Add a 5 minute cab ride and you're golden.

    Originally posted by MAN Flyer View Post
    No reason, in fact coach sounds like a good choice. He's probably going to be in the Hilton.
    If it's his first time or he's a novice, the bus is the best bet. When he exits the baggage area look for the bright orange sign. Price is ¥3,000 door to door.

    Originally posted by MAN Flyer View Post
    He's one of the few people mad enough to take a taxi to and from BKK as well.
    I was going to say the same thing.

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  • jhm
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    Originally posted by MAN Flyer View Post
    He's one of the few people mad enough to take a taxi to and from BKK as well.
    Risking life and limb to save less than a tenner when on the other hand £200+ is thrown away on a NRT taxi!

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  • MAN Flyer
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    Originally posted by jhm View Post
    That sounds about right. I meant why take the train rather than a bus ?
    No reason, in fact coach sounds like a good choice. He's probably going to be in the Hilton.

    Kyo (IIRC) is the only person I've met who's been mad enough to take a taxi to NRT.
    He's one of the few people mad enough to take a taxi to and from BKK as well.

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