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  • #16
    Originally posted by CarbonMan View Post
    Next time you head to Tokyo, do consider trying out the 1-star Michelin Ramen - Tsuta.

    They open at 11am but they start giving out queue numbers at 7.30am (to get a seat for lunchtime). The last time I went, they had already run out of queue numbers for the day by noon. Has to be one of the cheapest Michelin-starred restaurants around - for under 1,000 yen.
    Thanks for the recommendation...likely to head to Tokyo next week. Your suggestion comes at a perfect time!

    Originally posted by CarbonMan View Post
    An excellent TR again, yflyer!
    Thanks, CarbonMan!
    Last edited by yflyer; 7 March 2016, 01:10 PM.

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    • #17
      Awesome feed as usual! Will head off to TOKYO via MAB end of the month just in time for the sakura season. First time being there! So looking forward to it

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      • #18
        Another great TR! Mr Yflyer you are very lucky to have tried Kue cuisine! I was in Tokyo last week and I couldn't manage to try Kue. According to my Japanese counterpart, Kue has very complex taste depending on it's method of preparation.

        This TR will serve as a good guide for my next trip up to Tokyo!

        On the choice of carrier,JL's B763 does look comfy and spacious. Your TR has made me inclined to give it a try!

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Hajimbo View Post
          Awesome feed as usual! Will head off to TOKYO via MAB end of the month just in time for the sakura season. First time being there! So looking forward to it
          Thanks, Hajimbo!

          Have a great trip! Tokyo is a wonderful city. The closest I've come to being there during sakura season was many years ago, when the season was almost over. There were a few cherry blossoms here and there, but nothing jawdropping...it can be quite hard to predict exactly when the sakura will bloom...hope the timing of your trip works out!

          Originally posted by Tonitan View Post
          Another great TR! Mr Yflyer you are very lucky to have tried Kue cuisine! I was in Tokyo last week and I couldn't manage to try Kue. According to my Japanese counterpart, Kue has very complex taste depending on it's method of preparation.

          This TR will serve as a good guide for my next trip up to Tokyo!
          Thanks, Tonitan! Yes, it was good to be able to try the Kue fish...this was the first time I encountered it.

          Originally posted by Tonitan View Post
          On the choice of carrier,JL's B763 does look comfy and spacious. Your TR has made me inclined to give it a try!
          SQ and JL are both excellent. I would not hesitate to fly JAL if the price was right!
          Last edited by yflyer; 8 March 2016, 11:54 PM.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by yflyer View Post
            Not a match for SQ’s ultra-wide longhaul J products, but with the caveat that I have not experienced this JAL product inflight, I think I would prefer JAL’s staggered J layout to SQ’s current regional J, which is configured in 2-2-2 pairs.
            I have sat in these staggered types which have 2 variations. The 1-2-1 type like EY and the 2-2-1/1-2-1 type which is like this new JAL seats. The 1-2-1 types have the same seat widths like SQ's Regional J and i think they are fine although not wow.

            The 2-2-1/1-2-1 type shown here, however, is really the same like economy seats that goes flat and feel quite claustrophobic even when flat because it's pretty narrow like coffin. Of course it's better than economy and if the price difference is 30-50% is probably fine, but if charged at J's 2-3x premium won't do it for me. I tried this version on Jet's new aircrafts, which for them is a retrograde because their herringbones are way better in space. And many of the pax got a very shocked and worried eyes when first stepping into the new aircraft when we were substituted. I believe they thought they got downgraded to Premium Y. Need some reassuring from the crew that their seats will flatten fully and that those are not Y seats.


            I still will go for SQ's Regional J or AI's flatter version over these 2-2-1 seats.
            It's effectively not 5-across here. it's more like 8 across when the tables are included in the widths.

            Your food pics make my mouths water .... even for the very unusual items . Thanks for this great story. Cheers

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            • #21
              Excellent as always, yflyer!

              Your trip review couldn't come at a more opportune time. I'm heading into Tokyo in about a month's time from now for the Sakura season.

              Great to see a small writeup and some pictures dedicated to ANA Intercontinental, where I would be staying as well.

              I am particularly interested in the small joint specialising in unagi. Tried scrutinising the photos for hints on the location or restaurant name or maybe I didn't look hard enough. Do you by any chance know where were you brought to by your colleagues?

              And lastly correct me I am wrong, the Soba joint featured is Neboke?

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              • #22
                Originally posted by SQueeze View Post
                I have sat in these staggered types which have 2 variations. The 1-2-1 type like EY and the 2-2-1/1-2-1 type which is like this new JAL seats. The 1-2-1 types have the same seat widths like SQ's Regional J and i think they are fine although not wow.

                The 2-2-1/1-2-1 type shown here, however, is really the same like economy seats that goes flat and feel quite claustrophobic even when flat because it's pretty narrow like coffin.
                Thanks for sharing your views on these seats! Yes they did look very narrow for J seats. As this was a 767, the layout was actually 1-2-1, not 2-2-1/1-2-1, as the 767 is too narrow for anything more than staggered 1-2-1. In fact, I was amazed that they managed to do alternating rows of 2 in the middle as the 767 cabin is narrower than an A330.

                Originally posted by SQueeze View Post
                Your food pics make my mouths water .... even for the very unusual items . Thanks for this great story. Cheers
                Thanks, SQueeze! A lot of unusual food in Japan...I feel like I have only scratched the surface of what is available...


                Originally posted by goodielecks View Post
                Excellent as always, yflyer!

                Your trip review couldn't come at a more opportune time. I'm heading into Tokyo in about a month's time from now for the Sakura season.

                Great to see a small writeup and some pictures dedicated to ANA Intercontinental, where I would be staying as well.

                I am particularly interested in the small joint specialising in unagi. Tried scrutinising the photos for hints on the location or restaurant name or maybe I didn't look hard enough. Do you by any chance know where were you brought to by your colleagues?

                And lastly correct me I am wrong, the Soba joint featured is Neboke?
                Thanks, goodielecks!

                Looks like quite a few SQTalkers are planning to head to Tokyo during Sakura season! Enjoy yourself!

                There are quite a few unagi places in Tokyo...the one I went to was this place:

                http://tabelog.com/en/tokyo/A1314/A131402/13013991/

                I actually did not know the name of the restaurant when I went there, but tracked it down from my photo: There is a phone number printed on the banner hanging above the restaurant!

                For Neboke, that is the restaurant that served the Kue fish and whale. For soba, I didn't get the name. But I am in Tokyo next week and will see if I can eat there again. Also check out CarbonMan's soba recommendation! I am planning to try that too, if I can somehow find free time to queue up for lunch...

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                • #23
                  Excellent report as usual

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by SQflyergirl View Post
                    Excellent report as usual
                    Thanks, SQflyergirl!

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                    • #25
                      Thanks yflyer!

                      Will definitely add them to my list.

                      It's my 3rd trip to Tokyo and as usual, it seems like there're too few meal slots for everything that's on the list!

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by yflyer View Post
                        Final thoughts?

                        Tokyo is always an amazing place to visit, and every time I go there I discover something new. There are also so many options when choosing flights to Tokyo, and JAL has a very competitive offering on this sector. Of course so does SQ.

                        How does SQ compare on Japanese sectors?

                        I would still rate SQ’s newer Y products on the A380 / A330 and 77W’s superior to JAL, but JAL’s new 767 Y is better than SQ’s refurbished 777’s.

                        In terms of catering, SQ offers more choices than JAL, with a more international menu, but my impression from these flights is that JAL’s Y catering matches, and maybe even pips, SQ. Certainly the western breakfast on JAL is better than anything I have had on SQ or any other carrier for that matter.

                        So we are spoilt for choice for flights from Singapore to Tokyo. SQ does a great job, and as you can see from this TR, so does JAL. I’ve not flown ANA, but that is also on my list of carriers to try in the near future.

                        Thanks for reading!
                        Thanks for your report! Fully agree with your assessment. ANA Y seats are kinda narrow esp those that cannot be reclined. I usually avoid them.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by j.lin View Post
                          Thanks for your report! Fully agree with your assessment. ANA Y seats are kinda narrow esp those that cannot be reclined. I usually avoid them.
                          Thanks, j.lin!

                          I have never flown ANA, and I am interested in checking out their 787's at least once.

                          But I haven't had good experiences on the CX fixed shell Y seats. If ANA uses a similar design, then I doubt I will be comfortable either! Maybe I should try them on a daytime flight...

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                          • #28
                            Lip-smacking, entertaining and insightful. Totally enjoyed the read.

                            The 2-3-2 configuration on the 767 is ideal for solo passengers. You are never 1 seat away from the aisle even in Y. Ideal for short-medium haul flights. On long haul flights, I would prefer the 3-4-3 configuration and pray for an empty flight to convert my 3 or 4 seats into a bed.

                            Very impressive catering. It's comforting to know that there are airlines that are not cutting back on their Y catering. Since SQ's service cutbacks are becoming less subtle, I'll definitely consider JAL if I need to be in Tokyo.

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                            • #29
                              The breakfast on JL does look impressive! Have never had a breakfast on SQ or any other airline that matches that in Y. I had booked for my mum and her friends on the exact same flights to/from Tokyo. Good to know that they will be well-pampered on JL.
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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by icn.sg View Post
                                Lip-smacking, entertaining and insightful. Totally enjoyed the read.
                                Thanks, icn.sg!

                                Originally posted by ycp81 View Post
                                The breakfast on JL does look impressive! Have never had a breakfast on SQ or any other airline that matches that in Y.
                                Neither have I! The attention to detail was just amazing...I still can't believe they had a piece of waxed paper between the aluminium lid and the food just to prevent the food from sticking to the aluminum lid when it was being heated up.

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