SilkAir Boeing 737 Max Deliveries and Routes - Page 11

Scooter001 · 21st October 2019, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by 9V-SPL

Only 9V-MBE and 9V-MBF remain in SIN. You might have seen a regular MI 737-800 parked next to them.

Just drop by to say goodbye to the remaining max before they fly off to Aus.

oliverdave · 23rd October 2019, 07:47 AM

MBE left to join her friends last night. 5 down, 1 to go.

Scooter001 · 23rd October 2019, 09:55 AM

Aye. Judging by the deltas in dates, I reckon MBF would fly off at or around 29 Oct.

a340-313x · 27th October 2019, 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Scooter001

Aye. Judging by the deltas in dates, I reckon MBF would fly off at or around 29 Oct.

Exactly right - there is an MI8880 leaving for ASP on 29 October at 03.00. No guesses for which aircraft that is.

sbs2716g · 13th November 2019, 09:34 AM

anyone think SQ is talking to Boeing to cancel/change the 737MAX order??

the recent analyst briefing, the CEO refuse to comment on this.
i think SQ might be doing so. or else, they wont be refitting the NG..

guess those MAX which have been produced for MI (plus the 6 in Alice Springs) might go to Scoot? while SQ look for alternative models?
seem like a lot of paxes wont have confidence in taking the MAX.

yuuka_miya · 13th November 2019, 11:01 AM

Presumably they might be interested in some MAX 10s, which don't have MCAS.

The MI 7M8 had to take a capacity cut in order to fit the flatbed J seats...

flyguy · 13th January 2020, 04:53 PM

Silkair/SQ should have taken the almost a year downtime of the Maxes to reconfigure to the new business lie-flat seats as think the Max should be back flying from April 2020.

FN-GM · 14th January 2020, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by flyguy

Silkair/SQ should have taken the almost a year downtime of the Maxes to reconfigure to the new business lie-flat seats as think the Max should be back flying from April 2020.

I think they would like to but the new seats were not ready until 2020.

nocturne · 15th January 2020, 07:53 PM

I dont think its as straight forward, the MAX has such a bad rep that SQ will have to gradually introduce it back to their fleet. The recent internal mails have been very damning on the Boeing culture.

Perhaps even consider moving it to TR and utilise their A320s instead.

pokfur · 16th January 2020, 10:38 AM

Or perhaps try to negotiate to change the outstanding MAX orders to other Boeing models instead? More 777X or 787s? Then order the A320NEO and keep the 737NGs flying longer for now... The latter seems to be the case anyway since SQ has already decided to refit them with the flat beds. I don't think the current 737s are that inefficient right?

News has it that MH has dropped its MAX order.

yuuka_miya · 16th January 2020, 09:16 PM

But what are they going to do with the existing MAX that have been built for them?

I see conversions to MAX 10s happening, but it's unlikely they trash the order or convert to 787s, they have 29 on order unless TR need more.

MH, on the other hand, really ought to be downsizing, so if true then I'm not surprised.

9V-SML · 18th January 2020, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by nocturne

Perhaps even consider moving it to TR and utilise their A320s instead.

If it's the safety aspect that SIA is concerned with, it is unthinkable that they would deploy the 737 MAX on their budget offshoot (TR) instead of the mainline brand (SQ). The swap in aircraft types across both airlines would probably only materialise if the economics make sense - not because of the existing safety concerns.

nocturne · 20th January 2020, 08:53 AM

Aside from an obvious safety concern, there is a capacity shortage due to B737 MAX grounding. If this were to carry on much longer, i wonder what are the options for SQ with growing their narrow-body fleet. Perhaps bring in more B737NGs? or it will be a a question of who takes a capacity hit..SQ or TR?

As it stands, they were planning to commence their first SQ narrowbody flights in Mid-2020. Unless, the B737MAX can be cleared by FAA/CAAS by Mar'20, they will not be able to meet this plan.

Lots of decision to be made in the coming months.

MainlyMiles · 22nd January 2020, 02:37 AM

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Originally Posted by nocturne

As it stands, they were planning to commence their first SQ narrowbody flights in Mid-2020. Unless, the B737MAX can be cleared by FAA/CAAS by Mar'20, they will not be able to meet this plan.

Lots of decision to be made in the coming months.

SIA has already confirmed it is not waiting for the MAX grounding to be lifted to proceed with its SilkAir integration plans. Boeing 737-800s (NGs) will start receiving flat-bed Business Class seats between now and June 2020.

Anyway Boeing has started informing customers today that regulatory approval for the MAX isn't now expected until June or July 2020.

13th November 2019, 11:01 AM	#156
yuuka_miya SQTalk PPS Club Join Date: 22-Nov-2018 Programs: KF nothing Posts: 273	Presumably they might be interested in some MAX 10s, which don't have MCAS. The MI 7M8 had to take a capacity cut in order to fit the flatbed J seats... __________________ an infrastructure geek

16th January 2020, 09:16 PM	#161
yuuka_miya SQTalk PPS Club Join Date: 22-Nov-2018 Programs: KF nothing Posts: 273	But what are they going to do with the existing MAX that have been built for them? I see conversions to MAX 10s happening, but it's unlikely they trash the order or convert to 787s, they have 29 on order unless TR need more. MH, on the other hand, really ought to be downsizing, so if true then I'm not surprised. __________________ an infrastructure geek

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23rd October 2019, 07:47 AM	#152
oliverdave SQTalk Elite Gold Join Date: 02-Aug-2019 Posts: 102	MBE left to join her friends last night. 5 down, 1 to go.

23rd October 2019, 09:55 AM	#153
Scooter001 SQTalk Elite Silver Join Date: 08-Dec-2017 Posts: 61	Aye. Judging by the deltas in dates, I reckon MBF would fly off at or around 29 Oct.

13th November 2019, 09:34 AM	#155
sbs2716g SQTalk PPS Club Join Date: 08-Nov-2016 Posts: 503	anyone think SQ is talking to Boeing to cancel/change the 737MAX order?? the recent analyst briefing, the CEO refuse to comment on this. i think SQ might be doing so. or else, they wont be refitting the NG.. guess those MAX which have been produced for MI (plus the 6 in Alice Springs) might go to Scoot? while SQ look for alternative models? seem like a lot of paxes wont have confidence in taking the MAX.

13th January 2020, 04:53 PM	#157
flyguy SQTalk Solitaire PPS Join Date: 21-Dec-2006 Posts: 1,821	Silkair/SQ should have taken the almost a year downtime of the Maxes to reconfigure to the new business lie-flat seats as think the Max should be back flying from April 2020.

15th January 2020, 07:53 PM	#159
nocturne SQTalk Elite Silver Join Date: 14-Feb-2019 Posts: 51	I dont think its as straight forward, the MAX has such a bad rep that SQ will have to gradually introduce it back to their fleet. The recent internal mails have been very damning on the Boeing culture. Perhaps even consider moving it to TR and utilise their A320s instead.

16th January 2020, 10:38 AM	#160
pokfur SQTalk PPS Club Join Date: 13-Dec-2016 Location: Singapore Programs: SQ TPPS Posts: 291	Or perhaps try to negotiate to change the outstanding MAX orders to other Boeing models instead? More 777X or 787s? Then order the A320NEO and keep the 737NGs flying longer for now... The latter seems to be the case anyway since SQ has already decided to refit them with the flat beds. I don't think the current 737s are that inefficient right? News has it that MH has dropped its MAX order.

20th January 2020, 08:53 AM	#163
nocturne SQTalk Elite Silver Join Date: 14-Feb-2019 Posts: 51	Aside from an obvious safety concern, there is a capacity shortage due to B737 MAX grounding. If this were to carry on much longer, i wonder what are the options for SQ with growing their narrow-body fleet. Perhaps bring in more B737NGs? or it will be a a question of who takes a capacity hit..SQ or TR? As it stands, they were planning to commence their first SQ narrowbody flights in Mid-2020. Unless, the B737MAX can be cleared by FAA/CAAS by Mar'20, they will not be able to meet this plan. Lots of decision to be made in the coming months.