SQ B777 withdrawal thread

[Bitterroot]

And for those not paying close attention: 9V-SRD has morphed into EI-UNS at Transaero..........................

[777 9v-sqa]

Any updates on the 777-200,s be withdrawn, SQC,SQF and SQH operated extra SIN-SYD-MEL-SIN flights during the past week or so.

[jul247]

Am wondering when they sold the aircraft to UN, do they remove all SQ seats and upholstery, then install UN's own? Or they leave it just like that but remove all amenities and KrisWorld system?

For BI B772 they just removed the amenities. Kept Krisworld but rebranded it as BI's SkyShow.

[zvezda]

It seems that we know of 12 777-200ERs and 4 777-300s leaving the fleet. That capacity is equivalent to 18 A330-300s. With the first 787-9s coming in 2013 or 2014, SQ will be tight for regional capacity over the next few years.

[FN-GM]

It seems that we know of 12 777-200ERs and 4 777-300s leaving the fleet. That capacity is equivalent to 18 A330-300s. With the first 787-9s coming in 2013 or 2014, SQ will be tight for regional capacity over the next few years.

How come they didnt get rid of these 777's when the A330's where delivered?

Just wondering really.

Thanks

[wsssaero]

9V-SQA is back in service for some time in new SQ colors. Spotted in SIN http://www.myaviation.net/search/pho...hp?id=01894015

[craig777]

The 777 obviously can make profit on short distances given this route was one of the most profitable routes of the world until low cost competition was allowed. The fact is that competition has forced SQ to reduce capacity to Malaysia.

This has already happened before. BA used to fly 777s to both CDG and ORY. Then LCCs came along and the channel tunnel opened. They now stick to narrow bodies.

[zvezda]

How come they didnt get rid of these 777's when the A330's where delivered?

It looks like SQ need the capacity.

[FN-GM]

It looks like SQ need the capacity.

Ok might seem a daft question by why not now?

Thanks

[zvezda]

Ok might seem a daft question by why not now?

That SQ recently returned two of their JumboJets that had been parked in the desert to active status evidences that SQ do need capacity now. I suspect it's more a matter of it being time to retire the 777s and having a few good opportunities. There probably are not so many good opportunities to dispose of the JumboJets.

The A330-300s replace only about half of SQ's regional 777s. The other half will be replaced by the 787-9s in 2013-14.

[9V-SIA]

It seems that we know of 12 777-200ERs and 4 777-300s leaving the fleet. That capacity is equivalent to 18 A330-300s. With the first 787-9s coming in 2013 or 2014, SQ will be tight for regional capacity over the next few years.

That SQ recently returned two of their JumboJets that had been parked in the desert to active status evidences that SQ do need capacity now. I suspect it's more a matter of it being time to retire the 777s and having a few good opportunities. There probably are not so many good opportunities to dispose of the JumboJets.

The A330-300s replace only about half of SQ's regional 777s. The other half will be replaced by the 787-9s in 2013-14.

Can SQ keep their 777s flying till the 787s arrive?

It may be a good time to sell but have they got anything to replace them?

Otherwise how will they replace the equivalent of 18 A333?

2 744 won't cut it.

Short A333 leases from Airbus? Exercise their 77W options?

[zvezda]

Can SQ keep their 777s flying till the 787s arrive?

It may be a good time to sell but have they got anything to replace them?

Otherwise how will they replace the equivalent of 18 A333?

2 744 won't cut it.

Short A333 leases from Airbus? Exercise their 77W options?

The JumboJets are going soon. The only additional capacity coming this year or next will be the eight WhaleJets remaining on order. I don't think SQ will exercise the 777-300ER options now that Boeing are about to announce its successor. SQ might exercise their six remaining WhaleJet options since the improved version that will be delivered starting in 2013 will be able to operate LAX/SFO/NYC-SIN nonstop with nearly 400 seats.

[Nick C]

Can SQ keep their 777s flying till the 787s arrive?

I don't see why not. Probably they would have to pull a CX and a proper job retrofitting the entire aircraft should they want to keep it.

It may be a good time to sell but have they got anything to replace them?

It's a well known secret that SQ really trashes the hell out their 777s and it's unlikely that there will be many takers on the second hand market with the lesser airlines opting for the 787. Gone were the days where SQ managed to sell and lease back much of it's pre-2000 744 fleet.

[Nick C]

SQ might exercise their six remaining WhaleJet options since the improved version that will be delivered starting in 2013 will be able to operate LAX/SFO/NYC-SIN nonstop with nearly 400 seats.

Wouldn't it be more economically viable to route the 388R through its current stopover and uplift more payload without wind restrictions? I'm assuming a 60T payload for SIN-JFK vs 90T SIN-FRA-JFK.

[zvezda]

I'm confident SQ will still be flying regional 777s when the 787-9s start arriving in 2013 or 2014.

Wouldn't it be more economically viable to route the 388R through its current stopover and uplift more payload without wind restrictions? I'm assuming a 60T payload for SIN-JFK vs 90T SIN-FRA-JFK.

First, it's reasonably clear now that the long-ago proposed A380-800R will never be built. The centre fuel tank is simply not needed due to much better than expected aerodynamics. The 2013 wing will be even better.

Nonstop services afford a fare premium compared to interrupted services. I don't think SQ will stop flying SIN-LAX/NYC nonstop. The 2013 model WhaleJet would allow SQ to carry about thrice the payload and slightly more than twice the cabin floor area for about 50% higher trip costs, compared to the A340-500.