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  • #16
    i think you have got it wrong mad max. not everyone here is well to do and although i agree that there are a lot of PPS members here, there are also a lot of Y flyers too. Like me for example. Its not a matter of them being snobbish and its not that they look down on other flyers. Actually all this has nothing to do with Y,J or F. Its mostly to do with the fact that a lot of threads are started that are similar to other threads. Too many threads equates to a lot of work for the mods. We all want to be fair to everyone including the mods who run this site without financial reward. It is only polite for us to do some research as they moderate this site in their own free time.

    for me i only fly J on redemptions. i build up my mile flying Y and of course with credit cards.

    don't misuderstand the members here, they are more than willing to share their knowledge as i have discovered (me being quite new to the forum myself). But as mentioned before, questions can be asked in an existing thread if one doesnt have the time to read through the whole thread. the wealth of knowledge from these senior guys is all documented right here so they are most willing to share.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by mad max View Post
      there is a disturbing underlying assumption here by some people that younger members of the board should be segregated from the main body because well, they're young and probably don't know anything useful about SQ or lounges or for that matter even flying first or business class.

      sorry if i've misread this, but i think that's just downright snobbish. yes its true many young people are many years off from sitting in the front of the plane (unless they have wealthy parents in which case i envy you) but the fact is that i feel everyone is entitled to their own pov regardless of age. if they have something to say let them say it. this being said i myself am also rather new, but still. and i also realise we probably have a lot of well to do members on this board (how else would you all be flying first and business class week in week out?) but at the same time not everyone is so blessed or lucky. sometimes people just want to find out what the good life is like, you know? and why should anyone say no to that?
      hi mad max. i don't think the request for an age limit was in any way meant to be elitist. many of us, yours truly, fly economy heaps. however, i do feel like several posts revolve around the same questions that have been answered multiple times, and several other posts go far off topic and end up drifting into political commentary on SQ, conjecture and pure hyperbole. that being said, this is certainly not endemic of only the young posters. i do not feel like an age limit would serve a purpose, for the simple fact that it would be impossible to police. and young posters can contribute meaningfully, and have before. i'm still a kid at heart myself, and not too far removed from my college years, so i know how it feels to be singled out that you don't belong simply because you can maneuver without the use of a walker. but a commitment on the part of all posters to do meaningful research on questions before simply looking for the easy way out by flooding the boards with questions that have been answered a half-dozen times before would be beneficial to all. and the truth is, getting the answers to your questions is as simple as a few keystrokes, and probably takes less time than it would to post the question on the board and wait for an answer. but there are questions that have not been answered before, and i certainly don't want to create impediments to an important question by imposing an age limit. i think everyone agrees this is a forum for all- young and old.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by taipeiflyer View Post
        to add what exactly?? how to access mario cart on the avod system? sorry, i don't see the point... it's not like we're posting pornographic material.
        Is this for real? I joined the board only for that reason

        if they joined the forum, they probably have a decent understanding of SQ and can contribute meaningfully. no need to spoon-feed or baby-talk to any members. it is insulting their intelligence.
        Being serious, I agree with taipeflyer.
        There's no need for a specific area.
        Luke
        There's only One way to fly.... SINGAPORE AIRLINES!
        If SQ is too expensive, the other way to fly is Qatar Airways

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        • #19
          Originally posted by SQ1_B77W View Post
          it's up to admin choice...open another folder for kids or not...
          If opening a folder for kids would imply that those misbehaving will stop to misbehave, I'm ready to open an entire array of folder!!!!
          But something tells me that the nasty student (i repeat: only the nasty ones!) won't change their behaviour.

          Luke
          There's only One way to fly.... SINGAPORE AIRLINES!
          If SQ is too expensive, the other way to fly is Qatar Airways

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          • #20
            Originally posted by mad max View Post
            there is a disturbing underlying assumption here by some people that younger members of the board should be segregated from the main body because well, they're young and probably don't know anything useful about SQ or lounges or for that matter even flying first or business class.

            sorry if i've misread this, but i think that's just downright snobbish. yes its true many young people are many years off from sitting in the front of the plane (unless they have wealthy parents in which case i envy you) but the fact is that i feel everyone is entitled to their own pov regardless of age. if they have something to say let them say it. this being said i myself am also rather new, but still. and i also realise we probably have a lot of well to do members on this board (how else would you all be flying first and business class week in week out?) but at the same time not everyone is so blessed or lucky. sometimes people just want to find out what the good life is like, you know? and why should anyone say no to that?
            I agree with this.
            The discriminant factor is not the age. It'ss the way every member approaches to make the different.

            It's not a fault to be young or to post basic question. It's the reason and the way behind the posts/questions.

            One of the points of SQT's mission is to provide informations and to let other people know more about SQT. If we allowed only very expert people to join SQT, this would be a step back.

            Even the most basic or obvious question could help. Let's think to the FAQ. Most of them are really obvious and "stupid". But they are extremely useful.
            Let's think to the helpdesks: did u try to answer the message they receive?
            I tried, and most of the people who is a lurker (and not a member) asks for those basic and obvious question that experts consider "stupid".

            If a young student or even a children posts a correct question, this *must* be evaluated as an added value for this community.

            We have to fight with stupid attitude or disruptive behaviour. You could call them "childish" actions. But the problem is not the age, it's the action.
            And with all the due respect, many 40yo/50yo hold childish attitude, notwithstanding their age.

            It's of course my point of view.
            Luke
            There's only One way to fly.... SINGAPORE AIRLINES!
            If SQ is too expensive, the other way to fly is Qatar Airways

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            • #21
              Originally posted by SuperJonJon View Post
              I don't think that an age limit should be enforced but maybe a "Newbie" folder where newbies can post.
              Newbies are not allowed to post new threads till they hit an X number of posts within the newbie folder.
              This would only unleash the flaming to get the threshold.
              There's only One way to fly.... SINGAPORE AIRLINES!
              If SQ is too expensive, the other way to fly is Qatar Airways

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              • #22
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                Originally posted by SQDoubter View Post
                Its not a matter of them being snobbish and its not that they look down on other flyers. Actually all this has nothing to do with Y,J or F. Its mostly to do with the fact that a lot of threads are started that are similar to other threads. Too many threads equates to a lot of work for the mods.

                don't misuderstand the members here, they are more than willing to share their knowledge as i have discovered (me being quite new to the forum myself). But as mentioned before, questions can be asked in an existing thread if one doesnt have the time to read through the whole thread. the wealth of knowledge from these senior guys is all documented right here so they are most willing to share.
                With all the due respect, but it seems here everyone has just started surfing the web today...

                _____________________________________
                Let's talk about the tipology:
                we are talking about a *forum*, not about a divulgative website.
                We are not typing an encyclopaedia! We are not publishing any book.

                It's a forum, a place where people share and compare opinions and ideas.

                It's not a submarine or a technological machine where everything has to be perfect.

                It's a forum, once again.

                Which is the peculiarity of a forum: asking and answering in a not-live mode (otherwise is paging or chatting!).

                ___________________________

                Let's talk about the world around us.
                Just a curiousity: choose a forum on the web. You can choose a forum about technology, about mobile phones or about flights.

                Have you seen how many times similar questions appear? Have you seen how many cross-posts are there?
                Have you seen how many "stupid" question are being asked for?

                Hei - maybe you're forgetting - this is SQTalk, it's not the public library or the local authority office!!!

                Why many of you have a so pressing need to make everything so robotic and so "within the perfection"?

                Admins and moderators are not CEO, chairman and board directors of a company!!!! Admins and mods are here to build a better virtual environment (more features, options and so on) and to prevent someone damaging SQT or other members.
                I wouldn't be satisfied as admin if my action should go over the strictly necessary to protect SQT and other members.

                As I said to other mods/admins, this is a very quiet and good community. We had just a couple of serious matters in 2 years. We have sporadic spammers, and very few flamers.
                Why do you want to mummify SQT, forbidding some exceptional doubles or basic questions?


                Luke

                p.s.
                oh, and on a related note: aren't two threads on a similar matter unuseful as well as opening a TR thread 5 months ahead of the supposed flight?
                Last edited by LukeGT; 21 March 2009, 02:17 AM. Reason: p.s. adding
                There's only One way to fly.... SINGAPORE AIRLINES!
                If SQ is too expensive, the other way to fly is Qatar Airways

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by SQDoubter View Post
                  i think you have got it wrong mad max...Its not a matter of them being snobbish and its not that they look down on other flyers. Actually all this has nothing to do with Y,J or F. Its mostly to do with the fact that a lot of threads are started that are similar to other threads. Too many threads equates to a lot of work for the mods. We all want to be fair to everyone including the mods who run this site without financial reward. It is only polite for us to do some research as they moderate this site in their own free time.

                  ...

                  don't misuderstand the members here, they are more than willing to share their knowledge as i have discovered (me being quite new to the forum myself). But as mentioned before, questions can be asked in an existing thread if one doesnt have the time to read through the whole thread. the wealth of knowledge from these senior guys is all documented right here so they are most willing to share.
                  EXTREMELY WELL PUT!
                  HUGE AL

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by taipeiflyer View Post
                    ...many of us, yours truly, fly economy heaps.
                    And for some strange reason that is unknown to us, he does this domestically in the USA!
                    HUGE AL

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by mad max View Post
                      there is a disturbing underlying assumption here by some people that younger members of the board should be segregated from the main body because well, they're young and probably don't know anything useful about SQ or lounges or for that matter even flying first or business class.

                      sorry if i've misread this, but i think that's just downright snobbish. yes its true many young people are many years off from sitting in the front of the plane (unless they have wealthy parents in which case i envy you) but the fact is that i feel everyone is entitled to their own pov regardless of age. if they have something to say let them say it. this being said i myself am also rather new, but still. and i also realise we probably have a lot of well to do members on this board (how else would you all be flying first and business class week in week out?) but at the same time not everyone is so blessed or lucky. sometimes people just want to find out what the good life is like, you know? and why should anyone say no to that?
                      Sometimes, its is not the age but the way the forumite presents himself in his post. Well i do agree that the statement maturity does not come with age hold true, there are times where you think you do not see a whole lot of substance in one's post because of his infantile posting style... then BANG!!! the thread becomes a joke and what else, as a mod put it yesterday. "I am locking the thread before it gets out of hand."

                      Yet we never stopped to pondered. We were the has-beens of yesteryears. We wouldn't be where we are today if someone hadn't given us our big break. Remember Edison was criticised and ridiculed for his lack or slow in uptake,

                      Well I do not agree that there should be segregation, we should do our fair bit to pay it forward to educate and guide towards more responsilble forum behaviour. Perhaps let's have a guardian towards such posters?

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                      • #26
                        heh well ok i cheerfully withdraw what i said. it's quite a valid point about having too many threads for one topic.

                        but i think we should give people some credit and not insult their intelligence by insisting that they need to post X number of posts in this subforum before they're allowed to contribute. only when someone has shown that they are clearly incapable of searching before hand and just starting random threads should they be nudged by the moderators.

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                        • #27
                          Is it really that hard to use the "search" function?
                          Last edited by Gunnar Smithsen; 21 March 2009, 11:19 PM. Reason: Going back to school...

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                          • #28
                            Dear Gunnar, don't take it personally.... mine is clearly a provocation.... but I think it's self-explanatory...

                            Originally posted by Gunnar Smithsen View Post
                            Is it really that hard to use the "search" function?
                            It's as hard as to post a correct link to the *search* function......
                            There's only One way to fly.... SINGAPORE AIRLINES!
                            If SQ is too expensive, the other way to fly is Qatar Airways

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by SINFJ View Post
                              we should do our fair bit to pay it forward to educate and guide towards more responsilble forum behaviour. Perhaps let's have a guardian towards such posters?
                              I'm now talking for my own personal case: I don't want to be more "moderative" than now.
                              Education is smtgh that attains to disruptive behaviours. I find very hard to erect myself to the role of knowledge owner, since I think none here is close to this status. Probably neither Mr. Chew could do that.
                              Let's start from the point that everyone has something to learn and it's not a so big fault to make a question another time, as well as posting a manifest question.
                              Let me tell you that here it seems that any of you when started posting never made a mistake or a question already made....

                              I'm not saying admins/mods haven't to do anything.
                              Sometimes there's the need to housekeep and concentrate messages regardgin the same theme under a roof, and this is the case where mods/admin should act, in order to make your web experience better. But I would find very annoying to erase/move/edit any messages that could be similar to others or a double question.

                              But admins/mods role is not the father figure. Our role is to avoid anyone could damage other members or SQT.

                              Cheers
                              Luke
                              There's only One way to fly.... SINGAPORE AIRLINES!
                              If SQ is too expensive, the other way to fly is Qatar Airways

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by LukeGT View Post
                                Dear Gunnar, don't take it personally.... mine is clearly a provocation.... but I think it's self-explanatory...



                                It's as hard as to post a correct link to the *search* function......


                                So can someone point me in the direction of that newb forum

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