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  • Originally posted by Metropolitan Airlines View Post
    My bet would be on JFK rather than EWR, and with the introduction of more direct services to the US using A350-900ULR, here's my proposed network change for SQ:

    Scrap SIN-ICN-LAX, replaced by Asiana Airlines codeshare
    Scrap SIN-NRT-LAX, replaced by All Nippon Airways codeshare

    Maintain SIN-FRA-JFK, B77WR to replace A380-800
    Maintain SIN-MAN-IAH

    Introduce SIN-LAX direct, using A350-900ULR
    Introduce SIN-JFK direct, using A350-900ULR
    Introduce SIN-ORD direct, using A350-900ULR

    Relocate all SQ flights at JFK to Terminal 5, so that passengers can connect with High Quality Jetblue, replacing rogue United.

    Introduce SIN-HKG-LAX, replacing SQ 868 and SQ 857, with B77WR
    Introduce SIN-HKG-JFK, replacing SQ 872 and SQ 891, with B77WR

    A350-900 will replace A380-800 on SQ856/861
    TR978/979 and TR980/981 will be scrapped, replacing with Silkair B737 Max 8

    A380-800 to replace B777-300ER on the following flights:
    SQ211/212
    SQ241/242
    SQ217/218
    SQ288

    A380-800 to replace A330-300 on the follow flights:
    SQ876/877

    By establishing a scissor hub at HKG for American services, and preferably entering a JV with Hong Kong Airlines, I am sure it will allow Singapore Airlines to further tap into both America and China market., also it allows Singapore Airlines to replace Cathay Pacific to become the preferred airline for Chinese, Hong Kongers and Taiwanese for American routes.

    It also reduces intra competition amongst Star Alliance carriers as well.

    Thoughts and discussions welcomed.
    A very bold and ambitious prediction/proposal, and some out-of-box, maybe even controversial, thinking, but a very logical and well reasoned point of view, Metropolitan Airlines!
    Last edited by yflyer; 24 February 2018, 12:13 PM.

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    • Originally posted by Metropolitan Airlines View Post
      Introduce SIN-HKG-LAX, replacing SQ 868 and SQ 857, with B77WR
      Introduce SIN-HKG-JFK, replacing SQ 872 and SQ 891, with B77WR
      That is not likely to happen as SQ only has three more weekly slots between HKG and a US destination, and if they were already maintaining SQ2 anyway, then a 3x weekly service to LAX or JFK probably isn't worth running.

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      • Originally posted by a340-313x View Post
        That is not likely to happen as SQ only has three more weekly slots between HKG and a US destination, and if they were already maintaining SQ2 anyway, then a 3x weekly service to LAX or JFK probably isn't worth running.
        I liked MetropolitanAirlines's statement about the SQ US route strategy. What you forgot to add is what impact would this have on SFO (At least SQ2/1 via HKG). I am sure SQ2/1 would stay as is because having flown that many times, it's always full no matter what season (At least SFO-HKG-SFO).

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        • Originally posted by Metropolitan Airlines View Post

          A380-800 to replace B777-300ER on the following flights:
          SQ211/212
          SQ241/242
          SQ217/218
          SQ288
          I simply don't know enough about Asia-US operations, so I'm not going to make any comment about those suggestions. I'll stick with what I'm more familiar with.

          Yes, SQ217/8 to MEL should be an A380 more often, although I am uncertain about loads on SQ218 as that is my personal blackspot when it comes to flights to/from MEL. As a regular SQ217 flyer, I haven't seen an empty seat on it for at least 5 years.

          Your suggestion regarding SYD might be a little excessive, however. All 5 daily flights, including the one via CBR served by an A380? I reckon they might fill them for a few weeks in the peak seasons, but on a regular basis, given the new seating capacity which will soon be retrofitted into all A380 craft, by my rough calculations, you've added over 600 seats per day onto the same route!

          Also, although I'm sure the runway would be technically capable, it would be rather hilarious seeing an A380 moving about at CBR...

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          • Originally posted by Metropolitan Airlines View Post
            By establishing a scissor hub at HKG for American services, and preferably entering a JV with Hong Kong Airlines, I am sure it will allow Singapore Airlines to further tap into both America and China market., also it allows Singapore Airlines to replace Cathay Pacific to become the preferred airline for Chinese, Hong Kongers and Taiwanese for American routes.
            I'm curious to know why you think HKG will work as a hub for USA? Nevermind the fact that SQ only has 3 more weekly slots to USA.
            With CX struggling somewhat against Mainland Chinese carriers, how will that work for SQ? Where/who will feed SQ flights?

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            • Originally posted by Metropolitan Airlines View Post
              Relocate all SQ flights at JFK to Terminal 5, so that passengers can connect with High Quality Jetblue, replacing rogue United.
              For one, United has 0 flights from JFK. They pulled out completely in 2015. Thus an SQ passenger at JFK wishing to connect to United today would need to transfer airports to LGA or EWR. I, for one, have given up flying Star Alliance domestically (United) when connecting from SQ in NYC simply because the hassle is not worth transferring airports. I simply fly Delta from T4 or take the Airtrain to T5 for Jetblue.

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              • Wow, Jumbojet Lover! That's a lot of serious thought going into that proposal you have.

                Indeed I would think that centralizing all of SQ's ops at JFK is the way to go, as far as operational cost-savings are concerned. Should either the a380 or the new a359ULR encounter technical problems, it would also easier to move pax from one flight to an alternative. However, I think SQ has other thoughts in mind, and EWR is still a strong choice for the a359ULR, just as it was when they were flying the a345.

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                • Originally posted by Metropolitan Airlines View Post

                  Introduce SIN-HKG-LAX, replacing SQ 868 and SQ 857, with B77WR
                  Introduce SIN-HKG-JFK, replacing SQ 872 and SQ 891, with B77WR

                  .
                  A long-time dream of mine is to have SQ develop a mini-hub in HKG and open up flights to many US destinations via HKG.

                  However, my dream isn't coming true anytime soon. Not only because of the fifth freedom right limitations, but also CX is doing very aggressively in the US market. I doubt SQ would want to take the risk to step into further US market competition with CX at HKG.

                  I look forward to SQ opening up more fifth-freedom routes to the US at HKG, though. But I am also grateful in the mean time that they are still hanging in on SQ1/2.

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                  • SQ's rejigged North American Network

                    Originally posted by CarbonMan View Post
                    Wow, Jumbojet Lover! That's a lot of serious thought going into that proposal you have.
                    I didn't want to steal the thunder from MetropolitanAirlines's radical proposal, but I guess I'll throw my hat in the ring now.

                    From NYC
                    EWR-SIN, daily A350-900ULR, year-round
                    JFK-FRA-SIN, daily A380 for Northern Summer, daily Boeing 777-300ER for Northern Winter.

                    SQ and United may not have much of a relationship, but it would be mutually beneficial for SQ to serve EWR nonstop from Singapore, by virtue of the fact that they're both in Star Alliance and there are self-connecting passengers (like myself). In fact I would propose that SQ hammers out a codeshare agreement with United on selected destinations to/from EWR. These would be destinations not served non-stop by UA from LAX/SFO (i.e. Montreal, Rochester, Syracuse, Columbus OH...), thereby eliminating the conflict of interest of UA wanting to push passengers to their own SIN flights, OR destinations from which it would take less time to travel to SIN via EWR over LAX/SFO (i.e. Washington D.C., Boston...). This might have some impact on their codeshare flights with Jetblue, but I believe that there are sufficient frequent flyers of both Jetblue and United that remain loyal to their respective airlines not to make both sets of codeshares fall apart. For example, a Boston-based Jetblue Mosaic member would continue to fly Jetblue to JFK to connect to the JFK-FRA-SIN flight, while a United MileagePlus Premier from BOS would now be able to fly BOS-EWR, EWR-SIN.

                    For JFK, it's easier to see them utilizing the 777-300ER, especially in the off-peak season when I've been on flights that appeared to be less than 50% full. The challenge is the SIN-FRA sector. If slots are not an issue at FRA, SQ could introduce a second terminator SIN-FRA flight with similar timings to the JFK-bound flight.

                    From LAX
                    LAX-SIN, daily A350-900ULR, year-round
                    LAX-NRT-SIN, daily A380, year-round

                    I think it's hard to see SQ maintaining both LAX-ICN-SIN and LAX-NRT-SIN in addition to the non-stop LAX-SIN. There would be a large increase in capacity by SQ which might weaken the viability of both one-stop flights. I don't see LAX-ICN-SIN being kept over the more established LAX-NRT-SIN. It would revert back to A380 for a more conservative capacity increase. Keeping it 777-300ER would be insufficient for demand. Having Suites offered out of LAX will also be good aspirational marketing and reinforces SQ as the premium airline of choice from LAX to Asia.

                    The only caveat is if the 777-300ER services via NRT and ICN make good money on bellyhold cargo which makes the flights feasible even with lower passenger revenue. Air cargo is often overlooked and can help to sustain a flight that is marginally profitable. With the air cargo industry rebounding at the moment, this could well be the case for those two SQ flights which might lead to SQ keeping them as they are!

                    From SFO
                    SFO-SIN, daily A350-900, year-round
                    SFO-HKG-SIN, daily 777-300ER, year-round

                    I've thought of reasons for and against SQ switching the non-stop flight to the A350-900ULR and ultimately thought SQ should not make the switch. Presuming the A350-900ULR has similar operating costs as the base A350-900, I would say SQ is better off keeping the standard A350-900 on the non-stop route and deploying the ULR version on a new route which can only be served by the ULR. I've seen US Dpt of Transportation stats on SQ's SFO-SIN flight and the load factor is very healthy, so switching to a lower capacity A350-900ULR would mean unfulfilled demand. The A350-900ULR cabin configuration may be too premium heavy for SFO and SQ may not be able to command enough of a premium to make it feasible.

                    From IAH
                    IAH-MAN-SIN, 5x weekly A350-900

                    No changes needed here, let the route mature. It's probably a tad too far for the A350-900ULR too and small of a market to go non-stop to SIN.

                    New A350-900ULR route postulations (assuming SQ does not deploy the A350-900ULR to SFO)

                    SIN-ORD, daily, year-round

                    Chicago is a major finance and commerce hub in the US that's missing from SQ's route map. It would be a great connection from the Midwest to the heart of the growing ASEAN community. United has been trying to grow its domestic network from ORD against AA. Having a Star Alliance partner providing the fastest route to Singapore sure doesn't go against that cause.

                    SIN-YYZ, daily, year-round

                    Canada's major finance and commercial hub, connecting opportunities via Air Canada. But it may not be a large enough market overall to sustain the premium that an ULR flight demands. Air Canada is also unlikely to want to codeshare given their own ambitions. Who knows, they may be eyeing YVR-SIN using their shiny 787s.

                    Just for laughs...

                    SIN-ORD/YYZ-MIA, 5x weekly to ORD/YYZ with 3 frequencies continuing to MIA, year-round

                    Helps fill the aircraft flying from SIN to the first destination, gives SQ the honour of being the first airline from greater East Asia to fly to Miami. IF SQ can get carriage rights for YYZ-MIA, gives Canadian snowbirds another option to fly south.

                    SIN-ICN/NRT-MIA, 3x weekly, year-round

                    Give Miami's its coveted link to East Asia and SQ bragging rights to first East Asian airline in MIA!!

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                    • Originally posted by Jumbojet Lover View Post

                      New A350-900ULR route postulations (assuming SQ does not deploy the A350-900ULR to SFO)

                      SIN-ORD, daily, year-round

                      Chicago is a major finance and commerce hub in the US that's missing from SQ's route map. It would be a great connection from the Midwest to the heart of the growing ASEAN community. United has been trying to grow its domestic network from ORD against AA. Having a Star Alliance partner providing the fastest route to Singapore sure doesn't go against that cause.

                      SIN-YYZ, daily, year-round

                      Canada's major finance and commercial hub, connecting opportunities via Air Canada. But it may not be a large enough market overall to sustain the premium that an ULR flight demands. Air Canada is also unlikely to want to codeshare given their own ambitions. Who knows, they may be eyeing YVR-SIN using their shiny 787s.

                      Just for laughs...

                      SIN-ORD/YYZ-MIA, 5x weekly to ORD/YYZ with 3 frequencies continuing to MIA, year-round

                      Helps fill the aircraft flying from SIN to the first destination, gives SQ the honour of being the first airline from greater East Asia to fly to Miami. IF SQ can get carriage rights for YYZ-MIA, gives Canadian snowbirds another option to fly south.

                      SIN-ICN/NRT-MIA, 3x weekly, year-round

                      Give Miami's its coveted link to East Asia and SQ bragging rights to first East Asian airline in MIA!!
                      Would you think SEA and YVR are likely going to be new destinations?

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                      • I doubt anything will materialise, but a better relationship with UA would clearly be to SQ's advantage in developing its non-stop and one-stop American network.

                        I don't know the relationship with Canada, but I'm surprised there isn't a direct (this could be one stop) route between SIN and either YYZ or YVR.

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                        • Originally posted by 9V-JKL View Post
                          I'm curious to know why you think HKG will work as a hub for USA? Nevermind the fact that SQ only has 3 more weekly slots to USA.
                          With CX struggling somewhat against Mainland Chinese carriers, how will that work for SQ? Where/who will feed SQ flights?
                          Simple. It is because he is from HKG. He has been talking about replacing all HKG-SIN A350/A380 flights by B737Max8 in local forums.

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                          • Originally posted by SQ002 View Post
                            Would you think SEA and YVR are likely going to be new destinations?
                            SQ should have done either of those years ago using ordinary A359 frames *sigh*

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                            • Personal take on NA Strategy (if I were running the show with some historical bias, not what I believe is likely to happen):

                              A359 ULR
                              SIN-ORD 4x weekly
                              SIN-YYZ 5x weekly
                              SIN-EWR 5x weekly
                              SIN-LAX Daily

                              Ideally, if the routes perform, purchase 1 more ULR frame and increase to daily

                              A359
                              SIN-MAN-IAH 5x weekly
                              SIN-MAN-EWR 2x weekly
                              SIN-SFO Daily
                              SIN-SEA 5x weekly

                              77W
                              SIN-HKG-SFO Daily

                              A380
                              SIN-NRT-LAX Daily
                              SIN-FRA-JFK Daily

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                              • Originally posted by Dobbo View Post
                                I doubt anything will materialise, but a better relationship with UA would clearly be to SQ's advantage in developing its non-stop and one-stop American network.

                                I don't know the relationship with Canada, but I'm surprised there isn't a direct (this could be one stop) route between SIN and either YYZ or YVR.
                                SQ pulled out of YVR almost a decade ago but they were kicked out of YYZ on the other hand in the early 90's which then became SIN-FRA-JFK-FRA-SIN. Canada is a good question but let's wait and see.

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