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Old 19th July 2014, 03:22 PM   #46
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Indeed there're an incredible amount of noise in those forums. Some of those posters should go work for Hollywood, they will be great for way-off plots.
cant be more agree with you ..

A very shocking and saddening incidents and all prayers for those perished and families left behind.
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Old 20th July 2014, 07:51 AM   #47
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SQ's silence is deafening ... Guess they didn't.

Singapore's national carrier also did not comment either on reports that flight SQ351 from Copenhagen, Denmark, which was flying over the area at the time was about 25km away from flight MH17 when it was allegedly shot down.

SEOUL (AFP) - The Malaysian airliner apparently shot down over rebel-held eastern Ukraine was flying over airspace that a number of other Asian carriers abandoned months ago because of security concerns.

South Korea's two main airlines, Korean Air and Asiana, as well as Australia's Qantas and Taiwan's China Airlines said they had all rerouted flights from as early as the beginning of March when Russian troops moved into Crimea.

"We stopped flying over Ukraine because of safety concerns," Asiana spokeswoman Lee Hyo-Min said.

Korean Air re-routed its flights 250 kilometres (160 miles) south of Ukraine from March 3 "due to the political unrest in the region", an official for the carrier told AFP.
Question. If the plane is 25KM away. Will radar on plane detect something ?
(no sure if pilot say hello to each other when they are nearby)?
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Old 21st July 2014, 02:58 AM   #48
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It was really very near the area where the flight got shot down...
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Damn eerie: a Dutch passenger posted this photo with the caption, "If it disappears, this is what it looks like".

http://wapo.st/1oNQvgF

This is hitting pretty close as I am booked for SQ 351. Never once paid attention to routing. I hope it becomes standard practice to avoid hostile airspace.

My thoughts and condolences to those affected.
But the plane reg in this picture is MRC??
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Old 21st July 2014, 09:57 AM   #49
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Yes, its probable that each aircraft would show up in each of their cockpit displays if they have TCAS ( Traffic Collision Avoidance System )selected to be displayed along with other data.

At the point in which MH was hit, and as the display refreshed, the flight number MH17 would just not show up. It would be assumed that the aircraft is out of range for TCAS to pick up.

Aircraft to aircraft voice communications is not practiced as this may confuse instructions from Air Traffic Control. The radio frequencies must always be selected to sync with ATC in that particular area.
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Old 21st July 2014, 10:05 AM   #50
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It is easy for American carriers to avoid this area as they do not have many flights going for Europe to Asia. More specifically Europe to South Asia / Australia. Even for Korean / Japanese airlines, they should be flying a straighter path across Russia / China.

It was down to being in the wrong place at the wrong time.
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Old 21st July 2014, 11:11 AM   #51
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It is easy for American carriers to avoid this area as they do not have many flights going for Europe to Asia. More specifically Europe to South Asia / Australia. Even for Korean / Japanese airlines, they should be flying a straighter path across Russia / China.

It was down to being in the wrong place at the wrong time.
Believe this is nothing to do with frequency or number of flights. American is usually a "target" in many area. So it is not surprise to see that they avoid this flight path at all cost.
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Old 21st July 2014, 02:40 PM   #52
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Believe this is nothing to do with frequency or number of flights. American is usually a "target" in many area. So it is not surprise to see that they avoid this flight path at all cost.
I assume English isn't your first language? You seem to have missed the point The poster was saying the FAA rule wouldn't have a big impact on operations of US airlines.
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Old 23rd July 2014, 06:10 PM   #53
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I assume English isn't your first language? You seem to have missed the point The poster was saying the FAA rule wouldn't have a big impact on operations of US airlines.
Yes, strange, I do not seem to see FAA mention.
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