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  • Originally posted by sbs2716g View Post
    Slightly off topic. QF also having issue with its A380 currently with plane damage at hanger or stuck in SIN for one week waiting for engine change and also planes undergoing refit.
    They have to cancel some long haul flights such as QF1/2 n have to rebook entire plane load of paxes.
    It was VH-OQF that was stuck in SIN. It is currently back in service tonight as QF36|02DEC (SIN-MEL).

    An article regarding QF's shortage of A380s:
    https://simpleflying.com/quarter-qan...leet-grounded/
    Singapore Airlines - A great way to fly...

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    • Originally posted by sbs2716g View Post
      (SQdid give $15 meal voucher).
      To be fair though $15 doesn't get you much.

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      • Still no news on SKT?

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        • Originally posted by sbs2716g View Post
          Still no news on SKT?
          Scrapped 😂

          Ok just kidding. Obviously something has gone wrong with their A380 refit programme.

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          • surprisingly SQ can afford to keep a A380 down for 10 months which will cause them heavily

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            • Originally posted by flyguy View Post
              surprisingly SQ can afford to keep a A380 down for 10 months which will cause them heavily
              Read from another forum that it cost around $1.7 million per month (not sure about the currency) to lease SKA previously

              So as a thought guide, basically $17 million wasted right now for SKT.

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              • LHR goes 3 x daily A380 again in July and August 2020 for the peak holiday period, with SQ305/306 upgauging from 77W.

                This year a Version 3 aircraft will be used with new 2017 Suites and Business Class. That means there will be two A380v3s flying this route with very similar timings each day (SQ322 and SQ306 overnight to London and SQ305 and SQ317 back to Singapore).

                As a consequence, the ZRH route SQ345/346 reverts to A380 Version 1 for those two months.

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                • Originally posted by MainlyMiles View Post
                  As a consequence, the ZRH route SQ345/346 reverts to A380 Version 1 for those two months.
                  Tragic. It's not even a newly refurbished aircraft that's gonna operate it.

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                  • SQ638/637 NRT changing from A380v3 to B77W from 25/10/20.

                    Filtering through to GDS now but they've been capping it at F4 for a while.

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                    • Originally posted by MainlyMiles View Post
                      SQ638/637 NRT changing from A380v3 to B77W from 25/10/20.

                      Filtering through to GDS now but they've been capping it at F4 for a while.
                      So is AKL getting the version 3 A380 for Winter 2020?

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                      • Pretty much seems like they aren’t expecting any new additions to the V3 fleet, based on the current fleet commitment for 2020.
                        QF has already been sending their A380s in one by one. Over the course of 1yr,

                        SQ completed only 1x SKS and stalled at SKT. I’m getting more and more doubtful of their plans.

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                        • Originally posted by sbs2716g View Post
                          So is AKL getting the version 3 A380 for Winter 2020?
                          Yes it appears so, as SQ285 from 25/10 (and consequently SQ286 from 26/10).

                          However the A380v3 config has only been loaded in GDS until 01/11 for now, after which A380v1 config is still showing. Capacity is capped at F6 on all dates so far in the W20/21 season however, so it seems like a done deal.

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                          • Originally posted by ell3 View Post
                            Pretty much seems like they aren’t expecting any new additions to the V3 fleet, based on the current fleet commitment for 2020.
                            QF has already been sending their A380s in one by one. Over the course of 1yr,

                            SQ completed only 1x SKS and stalled at SKT. I’m getting more and more doubtful of their plans.
                            Think SKN is also undergoing refitting. Out for around 50 days since 20/10.
                            Seem like they are facing some difficulties in refitting.

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                            • My personal take is that they should reduce the fleet and eventually look to retire it by 2030.

                              The current oldest aircraft is SKF which was brought in Sep'08 (another 5 which are 10 yrs and above). Given the time they are taking to do SKS retrofitting, it will likely be another 2-3 yrs before they can start on SKF.

                              SQ which prides itself on flying a young fleet, cant have multiple A380s that are above 20 yrs old in the fleet. Also given all the new issues we are seeing in with the wings, it will be risky and costly to operate them well beyond their age.

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                              • Originally posted by nocturne View Post
                                SQ which prides itself on flying a young fleet, cant have multiple A380s that are above 20 yrs old in the fleet. Also given all the new issues we are seeing in with the wings, it will be risky and costly to operate them well beyond their age.
                                I think the average SQ fleet age will still remain relatively low with the new A350, 787, 777X and 737 deliveries in the coming years to negate the older A380 fleet. SQ would probably operate the A380s for longer than other aircraft types given their significant investment coupled with the lack of a secondary market...unless they strike a deal with Airbus to sell the fleet back along with new aircraft orders.

                                With the wings fixed, I don't see an issue as long as maintenance doesn't flag any issues. Costs would not come from operating them as much as maintaining them, especially with stuff like 'D' checks.

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