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  • Originally posted by happyflyer View Post
    Thanks for telling us about that!

    Instead of upgrading the B77W from 2006 to 2013 seats, I think SQ should prioritise changing the B777-200ER seats first. Those seats are super old and I'm surprised these seats with terrible IFE are still used to fly long-haul routes.
    They need to free up the 2006 seats from the 77W first.

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    • SWZ is doing SQ2/1 as a 77WR. Evidence is strong enough to me. 7 months ago I was on SWZ (in January) flying SQ2 to SFO knowing the first sector had signs it would eventually turn to a 77WR. Similar situation with SWU that also did LAX recently that my father was on 3 days after me.

      Now I think SWQ and SWR are definitely in for retrofitting cause we've had 3 77WN free up 4 First class seats and some Y seats as well.

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      • Originally posted by FN-GM View Post
        SINGAPORE AIRLINES FLEET & ORDERS (UPDATED 21 JULY 2017)

        Airbus A330-300

        In Service: 23
        Seating: 30J/255Y (Regional J, 2006 Y)

        - 9V-STA
        - 9V-STB
        - 9V-STC
        - 9V-STF
        - 9V-STH
        - 9V-STO
        - 9V-STQ
        - 9V-STR
        - 9V-STT
        - 9V-STU
        - 9V-STV
        - 9V-STW
        - 9V-STY
        - 9V-STZ
        - 9V-SSA
        - 9V-SSB
        - 9V-SSC
        - 9V-SSD
        - 9V-SSE
        - 9V-SSF
        - 9V-SSG
        - 9V-SSH
        - 9V-SSI

        Airbus A350-900

        In Service: 15
        On Order: 45
        Seating 1: 42J/24S/187Y (2013 J, 2015 S, 2013 Y)

        - 9V-SMA
        - 9V-SMB
        - 9V-SMC
        - 9V-SMD
        - 9V-SME
        - 9V-SMF
        - 9V-SMG
        - 9V-SMH
        - 9V-SMI
        - 9V-SMJ
        - 9V-SMK
        - 9V-SML
        - 9V-SMM
        - 9V-SMN
        - 9V-SMO

        Airbus A350-900ULR

        On Order: 7
        EIS: 2018
        Seating: TBA

        Airbus A380-800

        In Service: 18
        On Order: 5
        EIS: 2017
        Seating 1: 12R/60J/36S/333Y (2006 R, 2006 J, 2015 S, 2006 Y)

        - 9V-SKB
        - 9V-SKC
        - 9V-SKD
        - 9V-SKE
        - 9V-SKF
        - 9V-SKG
        - 9V-SKH
        - 9V-SKI
        - 9V-SKJ
        - 9V-SKK

        Seating 2: 12R/86J/36S/245Y (2006 R, 2006 J, 2015 S, 2006 Y)

        - 9V-SKL
        - 9V-SKM
        - 9V-SKN
        - 9V-SKP
        - 9V-SKQ
        - 9V-SKR
        - 9V-SKS
        - 9V-SKT

        Boeing 777-200

        In Service: 11
        Seating 1: 38J/228Y (Regional J, Refurbed Y)

        - 9V-SQJ
        - 9V-SQL
        - 9V-SQM
        - 9V-SQN
        - 9V-SRO
        - 9V-SRP
        - 9V-SRQ

        Seating 2: 38J/228Y (Regional J, 2006 Y)

        - 9V-SQK
        - 9V-SRM

        Seating 3: 30J/293Y (Ultimo J, 2001 Y)

        - 9V-SRJ
        - 9V-SRL

        Boeing 777-200ER

        In Service: 10
        Seating 1: 30J/255Y (Spacebed J, 2001 Y)

        - 9V-SVF

        Seating 2: 26J/245Y (2006 J, Refurbed Y)

        - 9V-SVC
        - 9V-SVE
        - 9V-SVG
        - 9V-SVI
        - 9V-SVJ
        - 9V-SVL
        - 9V-SVM
        - 9V-SVN

        Seating 3: 26J/245Y (2006 J, 2006 Y)

        - 9V-SVB

        Boeing 777-300

        In Service: 5
        Seating 1: 8F/50J/226Y (2006 F, Regional J, Refurbed Y)

        - 9V-SYF
        - 9V-SYJ
        - 9V-SYL

        Seating 2: 8F/50J/226Y (2006 F, Regional J, 2006 Y)

        - 9V-SYH
        - 9V-SYI

        Boeing 777-300ER

        In Service: 27
        Seating 1: 8F/42J/228Y (2006 F, 2006 J, 2006 Y)

        - 9V-SWG
        - 9V-SWI
        - 9V-SWQ
        - 9V-SWR
        - 9V-SWS
        - 9V-SWT

        Seating 2: 8F/42J/228Y (2013 F, 2013 J, 2013 Y)

        - 9V-SWV
        - 9V-SWW
        - 9V-SWY

        Seating 3: 4F/48J/28S/184Y (2013 F, 2013 J, 2015 S, 2013 Y)

        - 9V-SWA
        - 9V-SWB
        - 9V-SWD
        - 9V-SWE
        - 9V-SWF
        - 9V-SWH
        - 9V-SWJ
        - 9V-SWK
        - 9V-SWL
        - 9V-SWM
        - 9V-SWN
        - 9V-SWO
        - 9V-SWP
        - 9V-SWU
        - 9V-SWZ
        - 9V-SNA
        - 9V-SNB
        - 9V-SNC

        Boeing 777-9

        On Order: 20
        EIS: 2021
        Seating: TBA

        Boeing 787-10

        On Order: 49
        EIS: 2018
        Seating: TBA

        Total

        In Service: 109
        On Order: 126
        Noticed that the SilverKris magazine on board mentions 26 777-9 and 55 787-10 on order. Has SQ confirmed a further order of 12 more aircraft with Boeing?

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        • SQ424|05AUG (SIN-BOM) is being operated by a B777-300 (9V-SYH). Wonder why.
          Singapore Airlines - A great way to fly...

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          • Originally posted by 9V-SPL View Post
            SQ424|05AUG (SIN-BOM) is being operated by a B777-300 (9V-SYH). Wonder why.
            Anyone knows ? I am quite curious abt this as well

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            • Originally posted by 9V-SPL View Post
              SQ424|05AUG (SIN-BOM) is being operated by a B777-300 (9V-SYH). Wonder why.
              At least it's with 2006 Y but not the purple seats

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              • Originally posted by happyflyer View Post
                At least it's with 2006 Y but not the purple seats
                Haha, yeah that's a good thing. But it is mysterious. Back in February, we had one odd day BOM (424/423) and DEL (406/403) got a 77WN (IIRC, I think one got SWV and the other got SWZ) but nowhere on flightmapper did it mention that it was getting a 77W.

                Moreover, unlike last Summer, it's not a 77W/77WR/773 due to the time with light loads. They're running the A380 like usual.

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                • Been 4 weeks, SWQ and SWR still out so retrofitting seems obvious that taking 2 77W out will be the norm. My prediction will be another 77WN out because the afternoon rotation will be going 77WR soon.

                  EDIT: Yup, sounds like 2 77W taken for retrofitting seems to be the norm. Then again, I still wonder why they haven't pulled SWG or SWI for retrofits, they are 10 years old already and still containing the 2006 cabins.
                  Last edited by SQfanatic; 18 August 2017, 05:30 PM.

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                  • The 77WR retrofit seems to be the longest drawn out retrofit program. It's been years and they still have 9 to go. The new seats will be a generation old by the time they complete.

                    Let's hope the 380 retrofit is done faster.

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                    • Originally posted by 259850 View Post
                      The 77WR retrofit seems to be the longest drawn out retrofit program. It's been years and they still have 9 to go. The new seats will be a generation old by the time they complete.

                      Let's hope the 380 retrofit is done faster.
                      It is, however, my next prediction of an aircraft that might be taken out for retrofits can be another 77WN right after SWQ and SWR hatch, which I assume can be next week since LHR will go 77WR next.

                      Interesting fact: By the 6th week the 77WN gets hatched, but 7th week it's the older retrofitted 77W that gets hatched.

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                      • Originally posted by 259850 View Post
                        The 77WR retrofit seems to be the longest drawn out retrofit program. It's been years and they still have 9 to go. The new seats will be a generation old by the time they complete.

                        Let's hope the 380 retrofit is done faster.
                        Yup the only part of some of those unretrofitted 10-year old planes (SWG and SWI) is they probably have the 2013 cabin cover for Y but my guess is the 2006 entertainment system is running well and strong.

                        Side Note: The youngest, baby 77W, 9V-SNC is finally serving SQ2/1 since its 77WR debut 4 weeks ago, a few posters have indicated they got SNB which was frequently used a couple of times before SNC. SNA is flying SQ866/865 delayed with the typhoon which I heard is very shocking to hear of the delays. I will never forget Typhoon Nuri in 2008 which delayed my flight for 3.5 hours. That said, if we expect the A380 refit to be faster then this involves seasonal swaps like AKL and soon CDG and taking 2 A380 out at a time. Let's wait and see
                        Last edited by SQfanatic; 24 August 2017, 02:44 AM.

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                        • It does look like SVI has the 2006 seats in Y as well (from an Instagram picture + confirmation from the poster).

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                          • Originally posted by 259850 View Post
                            The 77WR retrofit seems to be the longest drawn out retrofit program. It's been years and they still have 9 to go. The new seats will be a generation old by the time they complete.

                            Let's hope the 380 retrofit is done faster.

                            Agree.

                            If I remember correctly, CX change all the long-haul J-class and Y-class seats on >80 planes (A333 and B77W) in three year's time.

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                            • Originally posted by happyflyer View Post
                              Agree.

                              If I remember correctly, CX change all the long-haul J-class and Y-class seats on >80 planes (A333 and B77W) in three year's time.
                              Both seats were highly unpopular with passengers, thus the haste. SQ's 2006 seats, while more than 10 years old at this point, are still relatively competitive and comfortable.

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                              • Originally posted by Jumbojet Lover View Post
                                Both seats were highly unpopular with passengers, thus the haste. SQ's 2006 seats, while more than 10 years old at this point, are still relatively competitive and comfortable.
                                Not for the old B772 seats and IFE though. They are still flying those ancient planes to CHC and IST.

                                The process of upgrading B772/B773 is also terribly slow. They could have use the 2006 seats got off from B77W once a B77W got retrofitted.

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