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  • Originally posted by Spaniard View Post
    Could we be seeing an accelerated refit pace as a result of the recent capacity adjustments?

    Perhaps a bit early to tell, but: SKH arrived from FRA 6/2 and SKP arrived from SYD 8/2. Rather ambitious to have 3 concurrent refits but would be an indication of the entire fleet being here to stay if they are going ahead with SKH, one of the oldest frames in the fleet right now.
    Definitely SKP could be joining SKN which is presumably being refitted. I’d almost go as far as guaranteeing that none of SKF-K will be looked at for refitting until all of SKL-R is done. SKH is probably just getting some routine maintenance done- those early A380s seem to need a lot of it.

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    • Originally posted by SQ228 View Post
      Definitely SKP could be joining SKN which is presumably being refitted. I’d almost go as far as guaranteeing that none of SKF-K will be looked at for refitting until all of SKL-R is done. SKH is probably just getting some routine maintenance done- those early A380s seem to need a lot of it.
      That's a very reasonable possibility, we shall find out in the next few weeks depending on the length of the downtime.

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      • Seems like for certain dates in May, SQ346/345 (SIN-ZRH) will be operated by B77W instead of the A388V3.

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        • Originally posted by Not You View Post
          Seems like for certain dates in May, SQ346/345 (SIN-ZRH) will be operated by B77W instead of the A388V3.
          • 4-8 May
          • 11-22 May
          • 24-28 May

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          • Aviation tag is selling parts of original SKA & SKB. Sad but chance to own a cool part
            https://www.cnn.com/travel/amp/airbu...tag/index.html

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            • Hello, does anyone know when the new Business Class in the A380 will be fly on the route to Frankfurt (SQ25/SQ26)?

              Is there a chance for December 2020?
              Thanks

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              • Originally posted by schilling04 View Post
                Hello, does anyone know when the new Business Class in the A380 will be fly on the route to Frankfurt (SQ25/SQ26)?

                Is there a chance for December 2020?
                Thanks
                Since SQ26/25 for a daily flight requires 3 frames, this would depend on the number of aircraft refitted so it’s very complex to answer.

                Some A380 services have been cut and using the 77W to China so it might give some slack for refitting.

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                • This might explain why the A380 cabin refits have stalled.

                  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=251WGe1MiLk

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                  • Originally posted by FN-GM View Post
                    This might explain why the A380 cabin refits have stalled.

                    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=251WGe1MiLk
                    Do you reckon it's possible they may not need all 19 A380s, but are thinking between 10-15 might be a more reasonable fleet size?

                    They've already done two, so they now have 7 in the new config, and seem to be in the process of doing at least one more.

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                    • Yes SQ will still continue to do the refit for at least another 7 A380s. The oldest 4 in the fleet wil most unlikely to be done as these 4 as reported by AB that they potentially have wing crack issues and have issued ADs to have them checked periodically since last year.
                      We could very likely see SQ operating 15 A380s in the next 2 years.

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                      • As it so happens, the AD seems to only apply to MSN<40, which would be SKF-SKI, so I guess it could well be 15.

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                        • In the short term, does it make sense to ground all the A380s given that load factor is low across the sectors?

                          Lufthansa has done just that if their 14 A380s

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                          • 3 points to compare LH and SQ:

                            1) Seat Load Factor

                            Lufthansa was never happy with their A380 fleet as for most of the time they are not able to sell the massive increase of Economy seats on the A380. Very different to SQ as they have lots of transit passengers in SIN.

                            2) Government pays salaries

                            In Germany, employers can apply for a special program where they promise to keep employees in the long run but are allowed to send them home for some months. The government in return pays employees 60% of their net salary to avoid hardship. While LH still has to pay for social security, they don't have to pay for the salaries.

                            3) LH owns their A380

                            All 14 aircraft are owned and written off already. LH doesn't need any cash flow to pay for leasing rates or depreciation.

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                            • SQ will still need to fly the A380s on some long-haul routes, but it can reduce the frequency by temporary reducing or cancelling its other widebody aircraft for example still using its A380 from SIN to SYD while reducing a 777 flight. But overall, there will be excess capacity and will see some A380s on the ground.

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                              • Based on recent reports, nothing suggests they’re cutting back on their original plan of refitting all of SKF-SKT.
                                In reality, progress has been terrible...3 years after the initial announcement only SKS has rolled out refitted. SKF-SKI will easily be at least 13+yrs old by the time their $30mil refit has been done. Hmmmmm.

                                Are any of the other -A380s leases btw?

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