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  • Flying into SIN in F, leaving in J - TPR?

    So it looks like I want to try SQ323 in F, but will be connecting to Seoul in J which is operated by a 330, ie. no first class. I realize I can take the flight operated by 77W but am planning to meet up with friends in SIN.

    I believe I know the answer (tough luck..) but will I get access to TPR?

  • #2
    You won't even get into the F lounge, unfortunately.. You'll need to get past that in order to come close to the TPR .

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    • #3
      Originally posted by SilverChris View Post
      You won't even get into the F lounge, unfortunately.. You'll need to get past that in order to come close to the TPR .
      If there is no lounge dragon at the F counter, walk pass quickly & sneak in there !

      But dont you try to sneak into TPR, no way.

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      • #4
        That's what I thought.. oh well, too bad. Thanks guys.

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        • #5
          Your movement will be CLOSELY monitored in TPR and that includes trespassers

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          • #6
            Originally posted by feb01mel View Post
            If there is no lounge dragon at the F counter,....
            I have never seen that.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by TerryK View Post
              I have never seen that.
              It occurs from time to time. During off-peak periods when there is only one of them at the desk, should a passenger from the FCL require assistance with his ticket, the receptionist will escort them to the ticketing desk. This happens at the TPR as well.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by eriond View Post
                It occurs from time to time. During off-peak periods when there is only one of them at the desk, should a passenger from the FCL require assistance with his ticket, the receptionist will escort them to the ticketing desk. This happens at the TPR as well.
                Seen it only happen three times, and once was only momentarily...

                I already had F access another time, and no time to waste on the last occasion

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by TerryK View Post
                  I have never seen that.
                  A few of us here manage to sneak in to F lounge at least once.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by FlyingDan View Post
                    So it looks like I want to try SQ323 in F, but will be connecting to Seoul in J which is operated by a 330, ie. no first class. I realize I can take the flight operated by 77W but am planning to meet up with friends in SIN.

                    I believe I know the answer (tough luck..) but will I get access to TPR?
                    This is a bit of a grey area to be honest.

                    If you have an F ticket and on the same ticket flying onwards in JCL on a flight with no F, you can get in TPR. I have done this on a number of flights to BKK and SGN in the last 12 months when I was inbound in F. I have even got access when arriving in F (Suites) and onwards on a sperate ticket in J by showing the Gold BP.

                    Having said that, I don't think the White Ladies themselves are sure of the rules. In January three of us were on the last schedued 744 pax flight from Europe (SQ25 from FRA on 16 Jan) in F. Of the three I was onwards in J to BNE, another was flying to CGK in F and another to PER in J. The F ticket to CGK obviously got access to TPR, I also did with my F BP from FRA but the pax flying to PER was refused entry. The only difference was the PER pax was not Solitaire, but as TPP is not a criteria for entry, apparently, it made no sense. We instead went to the F lounge and then when the PER pax left to get her flight the two of us went back to TPR and I again got entry with my F BP.

                    They should have made an official announcement about all this as they only starting allowing access to people flying on in J in the last coupe of years. But as they never even made an official announcement about TPR opening in the first place (not surprising with the ridiculous ban on people on award tickets using it) it is not surprising they haven't made one about the rules changes.

                    Originally posted by eriond View Post
                    It occurs from time to time. During off-peak periods when there is only one of them at the desk, should a passenger from the FCL require assistance with his ticket, the receptionist will escort them to the ticketing desk. This happens at the TPR as well.
                    Yep. It starts depending how many staff are at the entrance. If there are plenty then one of them will escort F pax to TPR. If not many staff there then they will take them to the entrance to the F lounge and the staff member there escorts them to TPR, thus leaving the F entrance 'unguarded'.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by MAN Flyer View Post
                      This is a bit of a grey area to be honest.

                      If you have an F ticket and on the same ticket flying onwards in JCL on a flight with no F, you can get in TPR. I have done this on a number of flights to BKK and SGN in the last 12 months when I was inbound in F. I have even got access when arriving in F (Suites) and onwards on a sperate ticket in J by showing the Gold BP.

                      Having said that, I don't think the White Ladies themselves are sure of the rules. In January three of us were on the last schedued 744 pax flight from Europe (SQ25 from FRA on 16 Jan) in F. Of the three I was onwards in J to BNE, another was flying to CGK in F and another to PER in J. The F ticket to CGK obviously got access to TPR, I also did with my F BP from FRA but the pax flying to PER was refused entry. The only difference was the PER pax was not Solitaire, but as TPP is not a criteria for entry, apparently, it made no sense. We instead went to the F lounge and then when the PER pax left to get her flight the two of us went back to TPR and I again got entry with my F BP.
                      The rules of entering the TPR are rather inconsistent. A month ago, I posted here when passenger A (TPP) flying in F/R guested passenger B flying in J/Y.

                      The whole incident was handled with a complete lack of discretion. Both pax originated from SIN. A came in first and started talking to the waiters about how the receptionists are being "very sticky with entry rules". He then proceeded to order drinks and meals for 2 people and told the waiter to deliver it to the table at the FCL where he will have it with B. He then left the TPR. Five minutes later, A returned and took his seat. He was joined by B moments after, complete with plates and cutlery from the FCL area. Heard every word they said and they did not make an effort to keep their voices down when thanking the TPR supervisor for the "exception" granted to them.

                      When I raised the anomaly to another TPR staff when leaving, the lady was dumbfounded and merely blinked a couple of times at me. I didn't ask any more as the buggy driver was waiting for me.
                      Last edited by eriond; 15 May 2012, 03:25 AM.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by eriond View Post
                        The rules of entering the TPR are rather inconsistent. A month ago, I posted here when passenger A (TPP) flying in F/R guested passenger B flying in J/Y.
                        Absolutely, that's why I said they really do need clarifying. But the absence of official announcements on all things TPR seem to prevent this.

                        Another daft example of inconsistency was when I once asked them to confirm that any inbound flight in F with onward in J on flight with no F was allowed TPR access. They told me it was 'Suites only' inbound that got access. I queried this and said 'So if I buy a return ticket in First Class from Bangkok to London and I fly back on SQ317 or SQ321 I can come in, but if I fly back on SQ319 I can't ?'. 'Seriously?'. They said they would just recheck and confirm but I left for my flight before they got back to me.

                        I feel for the staff there as they don't seem to have any clear rules about this.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by MAN Flyer View Post
                          Yep. It starts depending how many staff are at the entrance. If there are plenty then one of them will escort F pax to TPR. If not many staff there then they will take them to the entrance to the F lounge and the staff member there escorts them to TPR, thus leaving the F entrance 'unguarded'.
                          On my last TPR visit mid-Jan on R, there was only one white coat at SKL J entrance and she promptly escorted me straight into TPR, leaving nobody guarding the J entrance.

                          On the way past the F desk, she gestured to the F attendant to cover the J gate. The F attendant knew it probably meant she had to find someone to cover the unmanned F desk temporarily also, as she scurried off.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by MAN Flyer View Post
                            This is a bit of a grey area to be honest.

                            If you have an F ticket and on the same ticket flying onwards in JCL on a flight with no F
                            First off, many thanks for your reply, sheds some insight into the situation. I think the issue also here is that there are flights to ICN (one to be exact) that do offer F. So they might nail me on that. On the other hand, it's not my fault I want to connect to flight that doesn't..

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                            • #15
                              I have got a flight from AMS on F to SIN and the onward to Adelaide in J, as there is no F option. I was told I would not be getting entry into the FCL and would only be allowed in the J lounge.

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