New! SQUpgrade - Bid $ for One Class Upgrade

alian · 4th July 2016, 02:39 PM

Just got an email SIA is introducing a bid upgrade from economy to premium economy. It's a bidding upgrade prior 7 days before your travel subject to availability.

Seems like QF bid upgrade but QF allows J upgrade bid while SQ is only from Y to S.

Kudos to SQ for introducing new feature but not allow J upgrade bid seems abit sad. Perhaps S class not very popular so they using this to push.

Interesting but not sure how people will bite

Link to a screen capture of email https://flic.kr/p/HQSYsN

yflyer · 4th July 2016, 08:50 PM

Just received this email from SQ...

Sounds like a good idea...let's see how generous the bidding levels are.

ycp81 · 4th July 2016, 09:30 PM

FAQ link

https://www.singaporeair.com/en_UK/s...ySQupgrade-faq

SQ380 · 5th July 2016, 12:14 AM

I personally think that SQ shouldn't go down this path. This bidding for an upgrade is more viable for airlines of the LCC model. There is only so much you can do, and once you try too hard, things will only go downhill. I have tried the PEY, and my personal opinion is that it is over priced with nothing really to shout about. If you want to travel in comfort, go for it all the way, and do JCL with the flat bed.

leops1984 · 5th July 2016, 02:28 AM

I wonder if the original fare bucket is a factor in whether the bid or not is accepted.

SQ228 · 5th July 2016, 06:21 AM

Would this assume that once somebody has made a valid bid, that their place in the standard Y cabin can then be automatically resold, or at least become part of a pool that can be allocated to either Y or S as a whole?

There's not much money to be made in just shifting people to a better seat for an additional payment. If that's the plan, they would be better off lowering Y fares to attract more passengers and then upgrading status passengers to fill the empty higher classes by overselling Y. (Yes, I know I'm being self serving here, but it's win-win!

)

Tonitan · 5th July 2016, 09:08 AM

Only from economy to PEY? For now this looks like a band aid for PeY's dismal showi g. For an ambitious project that has a $100m refit budget only to see the entire exercise suspended midway through and now this Y to S class upgrade,the signs certainly does't bore well and i suspect some heads might roll in management and Mr Goh is probably at his Wits end and SQ as a whole is facing a massive pricing pressure from a wide range of competitors.

wfs · 5th July 2016, 01:15 PM

So far i never get free upgrade from SQ to PEY as KFEG member , when i travel with BR or CA always get free upgrade from economy to premium economy sometime to Business class .
This will NEVER happen travel with SQ

EWR · 5th July 2016, 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by leops1984

I wonder if the original fare bucket is a factor in whether the bid or not is accepted.

I was just thinking about that. Say someone books a K ticket, and another a Y full fare ticket. Both get invited. on an extremely empty flight at the back. K pax bids $500, Y pax bids $100. Does SQ let the first go through - since it's just more revenue - or the second - since Y fare +$100 is probably a higher overall fare?

alian · 5th July 2016, 01:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EWR

I was just thinking about that. Say someone books a K ticket, and another a Y full fare ticket. Both get invited. on an extremely empty flight at the back. K pax bids $500, Y pax bids $100. Does SQ let the first go through - since it's just more revenue - or the second - since Y fare +$100 is probably a higher overall fare?

Just like with redemption upgrades propably are for full paying Y and not discounted tickets. But really this would be at SIA discretion.

cowie · 5th July 2016, 04:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wfs

So far i never get free upgrade from SQ to PEY as KFEG member , when i travel with BR or CA always get free upgrade from economy to premium economy sometime to Business class .
This will NEVER happen travel with SQ

Anecdotally I have heard the opposite, at least during the initial launch phase for PEY.

CarbonMan · 5th July 2016, 05:05 PM

With PY fares 2 to 2.5 times Y Super Saver, it is really hard to justify the marginal enhancements. For example, flying in Apr 2017 on SQ32/31, Super Saver costs S$1,370~, while PY is S$3,545.~.

flyguy · 5th July 2016, 05:34 PM

it's like following Emirates and even MAS on this Upgrade and would think will extend to EY upgrade to J class in near future. However of course, there will be a min amount to bid.

leops1984 · 5th July 2016, 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CarbonMan

With PY fares 2 to 2.5 times Y Super Saver, it is really hard to justify the marginal enhancements. For example, flying in Apr 2017 on SQ32/31, Super Saver costs S$1,370~, while PY is S$3,545.~.

This. PY is a bit better than Y, but no way will I pay THAT much. Especially since from my home airport (MNL), J tickets are typically "only" 3-4x Y tickets.

inkoherent · 5th July 2016, 09:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flyguy

it's like following Emirates and even MAS on this Upgrade and would think will extend to EY upgrade to J class in near future. However of course, there will be a min amount to bid.

I'd be surprised to see this for upgrades to J. I'd imagine SQ wouldn't care too much about "dilution" of exclusivity in PY, whereas they would probably be a lot more cautious about letting that happen in J.

4th July 2016, 02:39 PM	#1
alian SQTalk PPS Club Join Date: 29-Feb-2016 Location: Singapore Programs: SQ PPS Posts: 382	Singapore Airlines introduces mySQupgrade Just got an email SIA is introducing a bid upgrade from economy to premium economy. It's a bidding upgrade prior 7 days before your travel subject to availability. Seems like QF bid upgrade but QF allows J upgrade bid while SQ is only from Y to S. Kudos to SQ for introducing new feature but not allow J upgrade bid seems abit sad. Perhaps S class not very popular so they using this to push. Interesting but not sure how people will bite Link to a screen capture of email https://flic.kr/p/HQSYsN Last edited by alian; 4th July 2016 at 06:27 PM.. Reason: Added image and typo

4th July 2016, 08:50 PM	#2
yflyer SQTalk Life Solitaire PPS LPP3 Join Date: 12-May-2011 Location: Singapore Programs: Krisflyer/Star Gold, Qantas Gold/Oneworld Sapphire Posts: 6,931	New! SQUpgrade - Bid $ for One Class Upgrade Just received this email from SQ... Sounds like a good idea...let's see how generous the bidding levels are.

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ycp81 SQTalk Life Solitaire PPS Join Date: 01-Apr-2007 Location: Singapore Programs: Krisflyer, Qantas Frequent Flyer, Flying Blue, Enrich Posts: 2,810	FAQ link https://www.singaporeair.com/en_UK/s...ySQupgrade-faq __________________ My past and future travels My Travel Map

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5th July 2016, 12:14 AM	#4
SQ380 SQTalk Elite Gold Join Date: 11-Jun-2012 Location: Singapore Programs: SQ PPS Posts: 163	I personally think that SQ shouldn't go down this path. This bidding for an upgrade is more viable for airlines of the LCC model. There is only so much you can do, and once you try too hard, things will only go downhill. I have tried the PEY, and my personal opinion is that it is over priced with nothing really to shout about. If you want to travel in comfort, go for it all the way, and do JCL with the flat bed.

5th July 2016, 02:28 AM	#5
leops1984 SQTalk PPS Club Join Date: 25-Apr-2015 Posts: 312	I wonder if the original fare bucket is a factor in whether the bid or not is accepted.

5th July 2016, 06:21 AM	#6
SQ228 SQTalk Life Solitaire PPS Join Date: 16-Dec-2010 Location: MEL & greatly missing the world Programs: KF Pleb Posts: 2,910	Would this assume that once somebody has made a valid bid, that their place in the standard Y cabin can then be automatically resold, or at least become part of a pool that can be allocated to either Y or S as a whole? There's not much money to be made in just shifting people to a better seat for an additional payment. If that's the plan, they would be better off lowering Y fares to attract more passengers and then upgrading status passengers to fill the empty higher classes by overselling Y. (Yes, I know I'm being self serving here, but it's win-win! )

5th July 2016, 09:08 AM	#7
Tonitan SQTalk Elite Gold Join Date: 16-Oct-2015 Location: Singapore Programs: Krisflyer,Privilege Club,Asia Miles,Flying Blue Posts: 132	Only from economy to PEY? For now this looks like a band aid for PeY's dismal showi g. For an ambitious project that has a $100m refit budget only to see the entire exercise suspended midway through and now this Y to S class upgrade,the signs certainly does't bore well and i suspect some heads might roll in management and Mr Goh is probably at his Wits end and SQ as a whole is facing a massive pricing pressure from a wide range of competitors.

5th July 2016, 01:15 PM	#8
wfs SQTalker Join Date: 23-Feb-2009 Location: North SG Posts: 16	So far i never get free upgrade from SQ to PEY as KFEG member , when i travel with BR or CA always get free upgrade from economy to premium economy sometime to Business class . This will NEVER happen travel with SQ

5th July 2016, 05:05 PM	#12
CarbonMan SQTalk Life Solitaire PPS Join Date: 27-Jul-2011 Location: Singapore mostly Posts: 2,681	With PY fares 2 to 2.5 times Y Super Saver, it is really hard to justify the marginal enhancements. For example, flying in Apr 2017 on SQ32/31, Super Saver costs S$1,370~, while PY is S$3,545.~.

5th July 2016, 05:34 PM	#13
flyguy SQTalk Solitaire PPS Join Date: 21-Dec-2006 Posts: 1,944	it's like following Emirates and even MAS on this Upgrade and would think will extend to EY upgrade to J class in near future. However of course, there will be a min amount to bid.