SQ PE - Now officially launched

[SQfanatic]

The A380s should be fairly quick as all they're doing is removing some seats and replacing them with the new PE seats. The 77Ws should take longer because SQ is refitting the entire plane along with the IFE system.

Does anyone here know which 77W other than 9V-SWL has the PE cabin?

What about 9V-SWJ and SWK which are already refitted, but are only taking a few seats out for Premium Economy? Same timeframe as the A380s?

[Bitterroot]

SWJ has been out two weeks so far.

[SQfanatic]

SWJ has been out two weeks so far.

Yeah, I know. I wonder if SWK is next after that's done. As asked could it take the same timeframe to refit SWJ/K like the A380's. The original other 77Ws with older long haul will definitely take longer.

[SQ228]

SWJ has been out two weeks so far.

Yep, and it's the only 77W of any variant to be on the ground at present so it still seems as if they are only interested in proceeding with one at any given time. For a refit program that was originally going to be quite ambitious when announced, it's almost 2 years since the launch of the new product and only three planes have been refitted, one of which is now back on the ground undergoing further refitting...

[ell3]

i was under the impression they're refitting the 380s with the new product too

[FSJZ]

i was under the impression they're refitting the 380s with the new product too

No they are not fitting the new 2013 products into the A380s because they are announcing new R and J products for the A380 soon.

[726]

so that would be a new seat with old IFE.
How about the refurbished 77W (77WT or is it 77WR)?

I am scheduled for SQ306 and SQ317. Guess the IFE would be the old one.

[SQfanatic]

What's the difference between the 77WT and 77WR exactly? Both have PEY though, right?

[Bitterroot]

What's the difference between the 77WT and 77WR exactly? Both have PEY though, right?

77WT does not have PEY -- 232 Y seats.

[SQ228]

77WT does not have PEY -- 232 Y seats.

If SWJ is currently getting a PEY cabin and presumably SWK will in due course, will this effectively remove the 77WT classification entirely?

Or do we know of plans to refit some of the fleet as 77WT once the required number of 77WR has been reached?

[FSJZ]

If SWJ is currently getting a PEY cabin and presumably SWK will in due course, will this effectively remove the 77WT classification entirely?

Or do we know of plans to refit some of the fleet as 77WT once the required number of 77WR has been reached?

Yes only 9V-SWJ and 9V-SWK are considered 777WT (F4/J48/Y232), and they are now being refitted with the 2015 PY seats, so that will remove the 777WT classification entirely.

There will not be any more 777WT in the future as all 19 original 77W (9V-SWA - 9V-SWT) with the 2006 products will be refitted with the 2013 products and 2015 PY (77WR), while the second batch of 8 77Ws (777WN) have already been fitted with the 2013 products since delivery, with no plans to refit them with the 2015 PY products as of yet.

To summarise:
777W
F8/J42/Y228
2006 F, 2006 J, 2006 Y
9V-SWA - 9V-SWT, excluding 9V-SWJ - 9V-SWL
[in the process of being refitted to 777WR configuration]

777WT
F4/J48/Y232
2013 F, 2013 J, 2013 Y
9V-SWJ, 9V-SWK
[in the process of being refitted to 777WR configuration]

777WR
F4/J48/S28/Y184
2013 F, 2013 J, 2015 S, 2013 Y
9V-SWL

777WN
F8/J42/Y228
2013 F, 2013 J, 2013 Y
9V-SWU - 9V-SNA

[FSJZ]

And it seems like 9V-SWJ has just taken to the skies today as SQ866 to HKG with PY.

So the updated list is:
777W
F8/J42/Y228
2006 F, 2006 J, 2006 Y
9V-SWA - 9V-SWT, excluding 9V-SWJ - 9V-SWL
[in the process of being refitted to 777WR configuration]

777WT
F4/J48/Y232
2013 F, 2013 J, 2013 Y
9V-SWK
[in the process of being refitted to 777WR configuration]

777WR
F4/J48/S28/Y184
2013 F, 2013 J, 2015 S, 2013 Y
9V-SWJ, 9V-SWL

777WN
F8/J42/Y228
2013 F, 2013 J, 2013 Y
9V-SWU - 9V-SNA

[SQ228]

Thanks for going to that effort to explain, FSJZ! That should be enough detail to answer everyone's questions.

[SQfanatic]

And it seems like 9V-SWJ has just taken to the skies today as SQ866 to HKG with PY.

So the updated list is:
777W
F8/J42/Y228
2006 F, 2006 J, 2006 Y
9V-SWA - 9V-SWT, excluding 9V-SWJ - 9V-SWL
[in the process of being refitted to 777WR configuration]

777WT
F4/J48/Y232
2013 F, 2013 J, 2013 Y
9V-SWK
[in the process of being refitted to 777WR configuration]

777WR
F4/J48/S28/Y184
2013 F, 2013 J, 2015 S, 2013 Y
9V-SWJ, 9V-SWL

777WN
F8/J42/Y228
2013 F, 2013 J, 2013 Y
9V-SWU - 9V-SNA

Ah, after doing some thinking, yes, I was going to ask that 77WT is what SWJ/K are until being refitted to 77WR configuration. Hopefully in the future, they will send a refitted 77W with PEY to HKG/SFO (SQ2/1) if there's demand for PEY on that route (I'm sure there is since CX flies PEY 77Ws to SFO) and the HKG/SFO route is high demand.

Even though not on airlineroute, it doesn't list Moscow/Houston or Barcelona/Sao Paolo on what will happen in the future. Could be a future A350 route, but who knows?

[FSJZ]

Ah, after doing some thinking, yes, I was going to ask that 77WT is what SWJ/K are until being refitted to 77WR configuration. Hopefully in the future, they will send a refitted 77W with PEY to HKG/SFO (SQ2/1) if there's demand for PEY on that route (I'm sure there is since CX flies PEY 77Ws to SFO) and the HKG/SFO route is high demand.

Even though not on airlineroute, it doesn't list Moscow/Houston or Barcelona/Sao Paolo on what will happen in the future. Could be a future A350 route, but who knows?

Yes IIRC Barcelona will be one of the first few destinations to receive the A350 with PY class. SQ will probably assign the first 20 A350s to the low passenger demand yet long haul routes like Moscow/Houston, Barcelona/Sao Paulo, basically routes that the 772ER are flying right now.