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Old 11th July 2018, 08:22 PM   #1
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Default SQ drops SIN-ICN-LAX, starts SIN-LAX at 10x weekly and boosts SIN-SFO to 10x weekly

As the title says, SQ has officially introduce a SIN-LAX schedule at 10x weekly with the following times.
SQ38: SIN-LAX (3x a week from Nov 2, to increase to daily from Nov 9)
Takes off at 2045hrs from SIN and lands in LAX at 1955hrs on the same day

SQ37: LAX-SIN (3x a week from Nov 2, to increase to daily from Nov 9)
Takes off at 2225hrs from LAX and lands in SIN at 0815hrs 2 days later

SQ36: SIN-LAX (3x a week from Dec 7)
Takes off at 0820hrs from SIN and lands at 0730hrs at LAX on the same day

SQ35: LAX-SIN (3x a week from Dec 7)
Takes off at 0915hrs from LAX and lands in SIN at 1905hrs the next day


SQ has also introduced three new weekly flights on the SIN-SFO route to be flown with the A359 ULR, the schedule which isn’t known yet. Lastly, SIN-ICN-LAX is to be dropped from Nov 30, to be replaced by a 4x weekly SIN-ICN terminator flight starting on Dec 1 while SIN-NRT-LAX remains.

Thoughts on this? Was expecting a new third US destination but SQ is clearly confident on its SFO and LAX operations. Risky considering UA’s recent exit from LAX-SIN and boosting its own SFO-SIN flights to 2x daily on UA metal? Will 31 weekly flights on SIN-SFO be overkill? Lastly, sad to see ICN go as a point on a fifth freedom route to the US although SIN-NRT-LAX was always going to be the route that remained when choosing between ICN and NRT for a stopover point for the SIN-LAX flights...
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Old 11th July 2018, 08:24 PM   #2
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Old 12th July 2018, 01:53 AM   #3
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It is indeed sad that the fifth-freedom ICN -US route is being axed. My other thought was great choices for timings but LAX will have 359ULR in addition to their 77WR so difficult on people who do fly Y class. They could have easily reverted SQ12/11 back to the A380 but based on a post in the forum it's the yields that they had switched to a 77WR.
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Old 12th July 2018, 03:35 AM   #4
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It is indeed sad that the fifth-freedom ICN -US route is being axed. My other thought was great choices for timings but LAX will have 359ULR in addition to their 77WR so difficult on people who do fly Y class. They could have easily reverted SQ12/11 back to the A380 but based on a post in the forum it's the yields that they had switched to a 77WR.
I personally think it is a case of “watch this space” re SQ12/11, as SQ haven’t officially released any details about it, or any (possible) changes to it. For a start, the current 77W aircraft on the LAX run do the following - SIN-ICN-LAX-NRT-SIN and SIN-NRT-LAX-ICN-SIN, therefore the SQ12 aircraft turns around at LAX as SQ7, and SQ8 turns around as SQ11. With SQ8/7 dropped, it means the 77WR is going to stay on the ground in LAX for a long time. I’m guessing maybe SQ would revise the schedules (timings) and maybe even equipment on SQ12/11...

Anyway Routssonline did mention changes to SQ12/11 remain possible so I guess we will wait and see...
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Old 12th July 2018, 04:55 AM   #5
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I personally think it is a case of “watch this space” re SQ12/11, as SQ haven’t officially released any details about it, or any (possible) changes to it. For a start, the current 77W aircraft on the LAX run do the following - SIN-ICN-LAX-NRT-SIN and SIN-NRT-LAX-ICN-SIN, therefore the SQ12 aircraft turns around at LAX as SQ7, and SQ8 turns around as SQ11. With SQ8/7 dropped, it means the 77WR is going to stay on the ground in LAX for a long time. I’m guessing maybe SQ would revise the schedules (timings) and maybe even equipment on SQ12/11...

Anyway Routssonline did mention changes to SQ12/11 remain possible so I guess we will wait and see...
I'm not sure what you mean by the 77WR going to stay on the ground for a very long time. I highly doubt that will happen. The schedules already mention that SQ11 is going back to the departure it had back at the time it was an A380.
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Old 12th July 2018, 05:46 AM   #6
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I'm not sure what you mean by the 77WR going to stay on the ground for a very long time. I highly doubt that will happen. The schedules already mention that SQ11 is going back to the departure it had back at the time it was an A380.
OK I stand corrected of the timings on SQ12/11 as it appears that SQ have rejigged the flight timings for SQ12/11 come Nov/Dec, such that the aircraft will remain in LAX between 11:30 and 15:15 hours, which is similar timings to what SQ12/11 used to be before SQ introduced the SQ8/7 SIN-ICN-LAX vv flights some years back. Schedules also show the operating aircraft as 77W, however, I quote this statement from Airlineroute (https://www.routesonline.com/news/38...rvice-changes/) as follow:

"SIA will continue to operate 1 daily Singapore – Tokyo Narita – Los Angeles service with 777-300ER, however further changes from 01DEC18 is likely."

The further changes could still indicate a chance of aircraft type and / or schedule, so I still think a "watch this space" thinking in relevant in this situation...
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Old 12th July 2018, 05:48 AM   #7
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I personally think it is a case of “watch this space” re SQ12/11, as SQ haven’t officially released any details about it, or any (possible) changes to it. For a start, the current 77W aircraft on the LAX run do the following - SIN-ICN-LAX-NRT-SIN and SIN-NRT-LAX-ICN-SIN, therefore the SQ12 aircraft turns around at LAX as SQ7, and SQ8 turns around as SQ11. With SQ8/7 dropped, it means the 77WR is going to stay on the ground in LAX for a long time. I’m guessing maybe SQ would revise the schedules (timings) and maybe even equipment on SQ12/11...

Anyway Routssonline did mention changes to SQ12/11 remain possible so I guess we will wait and see...
SQ11/12 has been retimed..

SIN NRT 0920-1705
NRT LAX 1830-1130

LAX NRT 1515-2000
NRT SIN 2055-0335
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Old 12th July 2018, 05:50 AM   #8
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SQ11/12 has been retimed..

SIN NRT 0920-1705
NRT LAX 1830-1130

LAX NRT 1515-2000
NRT SIN 2055-0335
Yeah I noted that thanks, see my post just above yours...

LOL I think we must be typing the same post at the same time and perhaps I just beat you to hitting the submit button!

Thanks anyway.
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Old 12th July 2018, 07:36 AM   #9
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SQ has also introduced three new weekly flights on the SIN-SFO route to be flown with the A359 ULR, the schedule which isn’t known yet.
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Old 12th July 2018, 02:36 PM   #10
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Just got this email! So no more lax icn flights?



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Old 12th July 2018, 02:56 PM   #11
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Just got this email! So no more lax icn flights?
No more.
Last SIN-ICN-LAX departure is on November 30.
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Old 12th July 2018, 04:38 PM   #12
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No more.
Last SIN-ICN-LAX departure is on November 30.
wonder what happen for those book on ICN-LAX or LAX-ICN flight
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Old 12th July 2018, 10:37 PM   #13
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What happens to Singapore's 5th freedom rights out of ICN? Are they "lost"?

Perhaps they could be used for ORD, SEA or YVR.
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Old 12th July 2018, 10:59 PM   #14
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With this increase in frequency and the launch of non-stop EWR flights, will SIA also have to increase the total number of staff? Given that this was long in the planning I would assume hiring if needed has increased both for pilots and cabin crew.

But would be interest to hear from anyone you might know more details.
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Old 13th July 2018, 12:12 AM   #15
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Seems that SQ is quite confident on the LAX route.. hope they won't be disappointed
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