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  • Originally posted by nocturne View Post
    With the daily addition of bad news coming in about B737, i wonder if SQ might cancel them and trade in for additional B787s or B777x.

    It might be an opportunity to standardise their narrow-body fleet. Perhaps even consider A321LRs for long-thin routes to new destinations.
    This will open up to the whole of Australia and North Asia
    Oh yes, a way out would probably be to convert to Max 10 like what Garuda and Virgin Australia are doing.

    Apparently the Max 10 handles differently and so doesn't need MCAS.
    an infrastructure geek

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    • Originally posted by nocturne View Post
      With the daily addition of bad news coming in about B737, i wonder if SQ might cancel them and trade in for additional B787s or B777x.
      Yet unfortunately B787 is not doing so well too.
      SQ and TR had to ground a few of their B787s due to engine problems.

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      • Originally posted by yuuka_miya View Post
        Oh yes, a way out would probably be to convert to Max 10 like what Garuda and Virgin Australia are doing.

        Apparently the Max 10 handles differently and so doesn't need MCAS.
        But Max 10 may struggle to go to SYD in Australia, CTS in Japan to the east and to Saudi Arabia to the west.

        I am not suggesting to send Max 10 to SYD, but it might disallow Singapore Airlines to some niche markets such as Newcastle or Canberra or Hobart, which considering the smaller size of Max 10, it can attract tour charters during holiday period.

        As Max 10 does not have the range to Saudi Arabia, that also means SIA cannot do Hajj narrow body charters too.

        Unless Boeing can extend the range of Max 10 to 6300 km or more.

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        • MUIS sends 800 a year on the Hajj, you'd probably want to use an A380 for Hajj charters ex-SIN instead.

          SQ already does Canberra anyway.

          Otherwise, the Max 10 can probably do most of the regional flying planned for the Max 8 if kept in a lower density config. I understand MI had to go with 1 less row on the Max in economy to accommodate the new business, and they may choose to cut some more during the refit.
          an infrastructure geek

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          • Boeing completes 737 MAX software upgrade, probably a sign that sooner or later this type of aircraft will be back in the air (after certification and approval from authorities of course).

            https://www.bbc.com/news/business-48276232

            Once it flies again for commercial services, the main challenge is how to convince people it's a safe airplane, as now everyone knows about the problem and everyone is losing their trust on FAA which will be the first one to say that the plane is safe to fly.

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            • China isn't going to approve this easily as it intertwines with the existing trade war and the Huawei banning in US.

              This means that SQ can't fly any of the B737s to China.

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              • The CN3 each have about 15 MAXes, and the smaller Chinese airlines have some too.

                I can see CAAC deliberately drag its heels on the matter, maybe more aggressively market the C919, but an extended grounding would be doing themselves no favors...
                an infrastructure geek

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                • Originally posted by nocturne View Post
                  China isn't going to approve this easily as it intertwines with the existing trade war and the Huawei banning in US.

                  This means that SQ can't fly any of the B737s to China.
                  Doubt so and China will lift the ban on flying the max once the FAA and EU have approved and lifted the ban, as airlines in China already have quite a number of max. Nothing to do with the trade war for existing Boeing planes. It's the future new orders of Boeing aircrafts that likely will be affected because of the trade war but not for exisitng ones.
                  Last edited by flyguy; 21 May 2019, 03:41 PM.

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                  • The FAA has found further issues with the 737 MAX:

                    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/boeing-...ay-2019-06-26/

                    I'd expect the Max to be out of service for a while longer.
                    an infrastructure geek

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                    • Originally posted by Metropolitan Airlines View Post
                      Yet unfortunately B787 is not doing so well too.
                      SQ and TR had to ground a few of their B787s due to engine problems.
                      That's due to RR engine issue.

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                      • Originally posted by yuuka_miya View Post
                        The CN3 each have about 15 MAXes, and the smaller Chinese airlines have some too.

                        I can see CAAC deliberately drag its heels on the matter, maybe more aggressively market the C919, but an extended grounding would be doing themselves no favors...
                        Doubt China will do that as its airlines have a total of 96 Max aircraft and should follow US FAA and EU EASA certification approval on when it can resume flying.
                        The trade war is something else and will likely affect only future purchases of US aircraft by its own airlines. But to keep holding its existing Maxes from flying when it is cleared to fly again is not in its own interests and the financial loss will be high.
                        Last edited by flyguy; 11 July 2019, 09:56 AM.

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                        • There's talk that SilkAir might be sending the Max jets to Alice Springs in Australia for storage. No news on when though.

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                          • Makes sense though. Parking at Changi can't be cheap and the MAX is likely still months away from getting re-certification.

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                            • Originally posted by Scooter001 View Post
                              There's talk that SilkAir might be sending the Max jets to Alice Springs in Australia for storage. No news on when though.
                              Aren't they grounded by almost all aviation authorities from flying ? Unless they get one off special authorizations from SG, indonesia and australian authorities.

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                              • Originally posted by boing View Post
                                Aren't they grounded by almost all aviation authorities from flying ? Unless they get one off special authorizations from SG, indonesia and australian authorities.
                                They can be ferried without passengers.

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