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Old 14th October 2017, 01:33 AM   #76
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Has anyone else noticed the bump? Does that mean these will be the first regional aircraft to have WIFI?
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Old 14th October 2017, 06:39 AM   #77
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Has anyone else noticed the bump? Does that mean these will be the first regional aircraft to have WIFI?
The A380s have a hump too, which means they'll have Wifi but I don't know from which carrier...Panasonic/T-Mobile or OnAir GX Aviation new Ka wifi?

I think the 787-10s will probably have Wifi but from which type, I'm guessing it'll be by Panasonic, it looks like the Ka Band. This surprised me too because Scoot has 787s that have no PTVs but they do have Wifi.

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Old 14th October 2017, 01:19 PM   #78
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Any reasons as to why the first plane is SCB but not SCA?

Seems like MH and TG are doing the same. Their first A359s are 9M-MAB and HS-THB respectively.
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Old 14th October 2017, 03:17 PM   #79
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Any reasons as to why the first plane is SCB but not SCA?.
Apparently this won't be the first B787 delivered to Singapore the next one built will be. This one is going to be used by Boeing for the next few months to help with the certification of the 787-10.
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Old 15th October 2017, 01:51 PM   #80
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Any reasons as to why the first plane is SCB but not SCA?

Seems like MH and TG are doing the same. Their first A359s are 9M-MAB and HS-THB respectively.
I thought CX did the same as well when they got their A350's, started with B-LRB, if I'm not mistaken. Correct me if I'm wrong.
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Old 15th October 2017, 03:39 PM   #81
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Seems like MH and TG are doing the same. Their first A359s are 9M-MAB and HS-THB respectively.
I know 9M-MAA is taken up by a helicopter, forcing MH to start with MAB.
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Old 18th October 2017, 08:19 AM   #82
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The keys to the first 787-10 are expected to be handed over in the first few months of 2018, with a second to follow shortly after.

The jet has already been fitted with Singapore Airlines' all-new regional business class seats, which the Star Alliance member is keeping under the tightest of wraps.

Source: https://www.ausbt.com.au/singapore-a...fly-early-2018
So there you go. We might see B787-10 in early 2018!

I do hope that they will have 2-4-2 economy instead of 3-3-3 though, to maintain the comfort of passengers.
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Old 18th October 2017, 11:46 AM   #83
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So there you go. We might see B787-10 in early 2018!

I do hope that they will have 2-4-2 economy instead of 3-3-3 though, to maintain the comfort of passengers.
2-4-2 is a guaranteed way to bleed more money.
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Old 18th October 2017, 03:04 PM   #84
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I bet my car on it being 3-3-3
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Old 18th October 2017, 04:33 PM   #85
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Unless SQ thinks they can get away with charging an eighth more for each seat for 2-4-2, they will go for a 3-3-3 configuration, especially since these planes are going to be for the shorter regional routes.
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Old 18th October 2017, 10:44 PM   #86
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It depends on how SQ is going to compete with the Chinese carriers. SQ PVG and PEK fares are much higher than MU and CA. Load has been decent because of the comfort by 77W and 380. If SQ squeeze 3-3-3 into 787 for both routes then they risk losing this edge and open up a bigger can of worms.
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Old 18th October 2017, 11:03 PM   #87
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I am resigned to the fact that SQ will most likely go for 9-abreast Y for their 787-10s, because they will be used for short regional routes.

For shorter sectors like SIN-BKK, SIN-HKG or SIN-MNL, I think SQ pax would not push back too hard on 3-3-3 in Y on a Dreamliner. I would personally still choose SQ on short sectors if they chose this config (Assuming IFE, meals and service remain at SQ standards).

I would object to longer 787 sectors like SIN-SYD or even SIN-HND in 9-abreast Y, though. And I would abandon SQ if they deployed 9-abreast 787's or 10-abreast 777's on long haul sectors like SIN-Europe or SIN-USA.

If SQ ever deployed Dreamliners for long haul/ultra long haul, then I think there could be a case for 8-abreast 2-4-2 in economy, similar to what JAL does (JAL has the only full service carrier 787 cabin that I would willingly fly, with a wonderful 2-4-2 layout in economy). But that does not seem to be in the plan.

Although airlines seem hell bent on persuading economy travellers that 9-abreast 787's and 10-abreast 777's are the new "standard", I will still avoid these configs on longer sectors when flying full service carriers.

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Old 19th October 2017, 12:11 AM   #88
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It depends on how SQ is going to compete with the Chinese carriers. SQ PVG and PEK fares are much higher than MU and CA. Load has been decent because of the comfort by 77W and 380. If SQ squeeze 3-3-3 into 787 for both routes then they risk losing this edge and open up a bigger can of worms.
Do not forget that SQ expects to receive a bunch of A350 Regionals which will be comfortable at 9-abreast in Y while sporting the same regional J seats as the 78-10s. These in my opinion are likely to be used on more premium and slightly further regional routes, such as to China as you mentioned above.

It's likely the the 78-10s will be used on shorter, high volume routes with less competition. If SRJ/L can last so long in the fleet and still haul passengers to BKK and MNL without passengers abandoning SQ, surely a brand new 78-10 will be a welcome change.
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Old 19th October 2017, 12:20 AM   #89
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If SQ squeeze 3-3-3 into 787 for both routes then they risk losing this edge and open up a bigger can of worms.
The majority of Y pax won't know the difference. They won't know different airlines have different number of seats across in the same aircraft. Most won't even pay attention to the type of aircraft.
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Old 19th October 2017, 02:05 PM   #90
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Unfortunately economics talks. People complain that SQ is too expensive. And passengers vote with their wallets to what they perceive value for money or for the lowest price option. Very few people,unless you are a seasoned traveler/airplane enthusiast, would bother with the plane type or plane seats.

Thus it is likely that SQ will go down the route of 3-3-3. I think each seat will be about 17.3 inches wide I hope. My only hope is that they won't reduce the seat pitch from 32 to 31/30. That would be horrible.

And I hope SQ doesn't end up becoming a budget carrier down at the back with bare bones service while becoming premium upfront. It might go this way.
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