Was listening to SIN radio on LiveATC.net and overheard that there are currently 11 aircraft at holding point for departure and pilots can expect at least 25 minutes wait. Am I right in saying that this is a daily occurrence at this time of the day? Maybe it's time to think about adding another runway for civilian use.
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Originally posted by flying.monkeyz View PostWas listening to SIN radio on LiveATC.net and overheard that there are currently 11 aircraft at holding point for departure and pilots can expect at least 25 minutes wait. Am I right in saying that this is a daily occurrence at this time of the day? Maybe it's time to think about adding another runway for civilian use.
The main problem is that 20R is usually an all-arrivals runway unless there is runway closure, and ALL departures are channeled to 20C (which also sees arrivals), causing such a jam.
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Originally posted by wsssaero View PostNothing new. If I'm at the airport in the evening TWY NC3 will definitely get jammed up at least once (usually more often) with aircraft holding for 20C departures and I'm pretty sure that's the same case with TWY EP as well. Happens during the morning rush too.
The main problem is that 20R is usually an all-arrivals runway unless there is runway closure, and ALL departures are channeled to 20C (which also sees arrivals), causing such a jam.
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Originally posted by wsssaero View PostNothing new. If I'm at the airport in the evening TWY NC3 will definitely get jammed up at least once (usually more often) with aircraft holding for 20C departures and I'm pretty sure that's the same case with TWY EP as well. Happens during the morning rush too.
The main problem is that 20R is usually an all-arrivals runway unless there is runway closure, and ALL departures are channeled to 20C (which also sees arrivals), causing such a jam.
Someone should consider reclaiming Singapore all the way to Pasit Gudang
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Originally posted by SINFJ View PostIf your office were in Changi North and Bozzie his holding his morning brief, I am sure he would be damn irritatedd with 02/20 R take offs
Someone should consider reclaiming Singapore all the way to Pasit Gudang
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Originally posted by SINFJ View PostIf your office were in Changi North and Bozzie his holding his morning brief, I am sure he would be damn irritatedd with 02/20 R take offs
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I do see the odd freighter aircraft from bay 500+ departing from 20R. Maybe ATC accommodates them as they are near the runway. Modern turbofan engines have come a long way that their noise footprints actually lessen as they climb out. You can just about hear them from CBP as they climb out of 20R. Unless if you are talking about B727 ! And with the offices insulated with full glass ceiling to wall, you should barely hear them. ATC should seriously consider diverting some departure traffic to 20R if the queue for departure is increasing with the priority given to "quieter" aircrafts.
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Nothing new. If I'm at the airport in the evening TWY NC3 will definitely get jammed up at least once (usually more often) with aircraft holding for 20C departures and I'm pretty sure that's the same case with TWY EP as well. Happens during the morning rush too.
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Originally posted by boing View PostOn a sidenote, couldn't help wondering what could have happened, if LTA officials were managing the airport and saw this scene. Imagine ERP gantries along NC and EP.
Let's just keep the Econs textbooks back on the shelves
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Originally posted by flying.monkeyz View PostWas listening to SIN radio on LiveATC.net and overheard that there are currently 11 aircraft at holding point for departure and pilots can expect at least 25 minutes wait....
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Originally posted by TerryK View Post11 is nothing. I have experienced 50+ at JFK during evening peak. We took off after 100 minutes and was 70 minutes late for arrival.
Speaking of which the last time I was on bus 856 on 8/31 which pushed back at STD, took off +45 and eventually still made it at gate 15 at Chek Lap Kok on the dot. The boys in the cockpit must have really throttled
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Originally posted by SilverChris View PostI wonder if this is why 3K has added another 5-10 mins to their KUL-SIN flights..
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Originally posted by SilverChris View PostI wonder if this is why 3K has added another 5-10 mins to their KUL-SIN flights..
It is exactly why, years ago, the flight times in the timetable between Heathrow and Edinburgh magically increased from 1hr to 1:30hr even though I'm pretty sure, no matter how hard we tried, Edinburgh didn't relocate much further away.
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