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phaleesy 16th August 2010 03:54 AM

Minimising the Stress: BKK Taxis
 
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Originally Posted by jhm (Post 127217)
Actually, I just noticed (after booking the SGS) that I arrive BKK on Sun 26 Sep at 22:50 and depart the next morning at 10:15! And then I get to my destination, wander around without a hotel for 10 hours and then have to fly again! :eek3:

In BKK, if I can get to my hotel (what's the best way at that time of night ?), have a pad thai/tom yum, get 4 hours sleep and make my flight, I will be happy!

I was about to book my TG flights and found that I have the same layover as jhm on the 4th of Sept! :( I could also choose a later flight from ICN and arrive in BKK at 0110 +1.

kyo+, are you in town on the 4th? You could perhaps take me out to the night markets/eating places? :biggrin:

Otherwise, it is likely that I'd stay put in the Novotel airport hotel. I find it stressful dealing with BKK taxis.

sqdazz 16th August 2010 05:45 AM

Taxis are better lately. Or maybe im just a master at dealing with them now. Im in bkk tonight for a few days

Kyo 16th August 2010 08:54 AM

phaleesy: I'm not meant to be there anytime soon, actually (I'd cleared my schedule and re-booked into KUL next weekend) - and I know TG flights on 3/5th Sept all the way up to the 24th ex-SIN on the last Fri flight are all booked out. Let me check if I can bring myself to book on SQ instead Sat AM... will get back to you, but no promises just yet. Perhaps if you bribe me somehow... :D

phaleesy 17th August 2010 09:35 AM

How long would the cab ride take at that time of the night? Say 130am thereabouts or 11pm, depending on the flights I book.

How much would the taxis cost approximately?

I just thought it would be easier to hop onto a hotel shuttle and get to rest in the room in a (hopefully) short time, versus cab ride in/out and dealing with taxi drivers. BKK is not one of my fav stopovers and I'm really unhappy that there is a forced overnight layover this time. :frown:

Kyo 17th August 2010 12:13 PM

Taxi cab cost to where? Town? Which hotel do you have in mind?

400THB generally will cover everything, including tollways ('tang duan'). If using regular freeways, then you'll save 70THB. Most of the time, I'm staying at the LM, which costs me around 320THB to get there. Depends of course on your taxi driver/route.

If I were you, I wouldn't take the later flight ex-ICN (it means an early start to the day for you in Korea). My SO, flat-out refuses to take a taxi by herself from the airport back home after 10pm... I've done it every single time, but I'm a guy, and haven't had any problems yet - there are a few taxi drivers who are a little dodgy, and no one can guarantee your safety (although I'm sure you know how to take care of yourself). You can also take an overpriced AOT 'limousine'/Camry and pay even more money, of course.

Otherwise, come in at 1am, and book the Novotel. You haven't left yourself many options.

MAN Flyer 17th August 2010 11:20 PM

With a 22:50 arrival and 10:15 departure it would be a total waste of one of the worlds great cities to stay in an airport hotel in Bangkok. And if the SGS is 30 GBP cheaper than said airport hotel it's even more of a no brainer.

I agree Bangkok taxis are a pain, that's why I never use them to and from the airport. AOT limos has SUV's for 950 THB each way, and usually 25-50% off the return if you book it at the airport. Yes they are more expensive than a normal taxi but they are a hell of a lot safer, and they have seatbelts in the back!. The 10 GBP difference between a seatbelt-less taxi and lunatic driver against a nice comfy brand new AOT car is the second no brainer. The 30 GBP you'll save at the SGS over the airport hotel will pay the difference anyway.

At that time of day you'll be at the SGS in 35-45 mins, usually the former if he comes off the expressway, down past Phetchaburi station and does a right onto Sukhumvit instead of coming the other way up Sukhumvit and doing a u-turn.

Get into the city and enjoy yourself!. :thumbsup:

HUGE AL 18th August 2010 04:07 AM

Hahahaha I was just waiting for MAN Flyer to weigh in...especially on the taxi. :wink:

phaleesy 18th August 2010 08:25 AM

Thanks, MAN Flyer, I have always used the vouchered taxis from the airport. But have not realised we could book a return too.

If I arrive in BKK at 0110 in the morning and have a 1015am flight the next day, there's really not much to do except sleep!

Please suggest alternative activities for a single girl in BKK and I might reconsider! :smile: Are there places where I could take pictures of bright city lights like in Shinjuku and Times Square? I know there would always be eating places but I don't know where to go!

It is very likely that I'd take kyo+'s advice and spend the night at the Novotel. I think I might have quite a bit of sight-seeing on arrival at my next destination. Ms SQfg knows all about that. :wink:

sqdazz 18th August 2010 09:19 AM

I catch normal every day taxi's and I go upstairs to catch them (departures level). I think in 2007/2008 I would get maniac drivers MOST of the time. These days, I think 9 out of 10 have been really quite sedate good drivers. Things have really improved, dont ask me why.

As for why I go upstairs, its not just to save the 50 baht surcharge... but some of the drivers have to wait for hours to get a fare and if they end up with me and my little fare (160 baht) they occassionally complain. I dont blame them really. I have to do the same thing in melbourne because I live so near to the airport, it saves a lot of drama in the end.

Ive been in and out of thailand 3 times in the past month and every little baht counts for me as I dont travel for business and it all comes out of my pocket. There is simply no way I could be travelling this often if i didnt save a little here and there.

BTW, I got an SUV last night, upstairs. 200 baht flat rate to my place (25km from airport).

Kyo 18th August 2010 10:21 AM

Like sqdazz, I concur that the AOT service is for pansies :P (muahaha, MAN Flyer), and I also go upstairs to Departures and actually secretly hope I get a wannabe Lewis Hamilton cowboy driver who knows the limits of his souped-up green/yellow or pink taxi and how to avoid the rest of the traffic...

187THB later on the meter (non-expressway) was the fastest and cheapest ride I ever got to the LM (not including tolls, which cost 70THB more). He was so 'good' I gave him 220THB anyway. I think there's alot of fear-mongering about BKK taxi drivers in general, but it does depend quite a bit on the individual taking the ride, and also the political situation (lots of angst a few months back, for example, within the taxi community, so you have to know when to bargain and more importantly, stop bargaining... or insist on using the meter)!

It's very doable to get a 200THB ride (but it depends on your negotiating skill sometimes).

Paying 950THB each way is an absolute rort in my opinion and I'd absolutely refuse / never do that.

jhm 18th August 2010 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by MAN Flyer (Post 128337)
seatbelt-less taxi

That's the clincher for me. I'd rather pay an extra 10 rather than take the risk. It's the same reason why I won't fly an airline with a dodgy safety record and I'm sure that risk is a lot lower than the risk of having an accident in a taxi.

SQflyergirl 18th August 2010 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by jhm (Post 128383)
That's the clincher for me. I'd rather pay an extra 10 rather than take the risk.

They accept Sterling now in thai taxis? :p

MAN Flyer 18th August 2010 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by phaleesy (Post 128351)
If I arrive in BKK at 0110 in the morning and have a 1015am flight the next day, there's really not much to do except sleep!

Please suggest alternative activities for a single girl in BKK and I might reconsider! :smile: Are there places where I could take pictures of bright city lights like in Shinjuku and Times Square? I know there would always be eating places but I don't know where to go!

Arriving at that time rather than the earlier stated 22:30 arrival changes things somewhat and limits what you are able to do with your time. Although I would still go into town myself. :smile:

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Originally Posted by jhm (Post 128383)
That's the clincher for me. I'd rather pay an extra 10 rather than take the risk. It's the same reason why I won't fly an airline with a dodgy safety record and I'm sure that risk is a lot lower than the risk of having an accident in a taxi.

Absolutely. For such a small amout the risk is just not worth it. Bangkok taxis are dangersous on the expressways to and from the airport. I don't need a debate to know this I've done the trips more times than I care to remember over the last 15 years, and it's a fact. I was very very lucky once in what was nearly my last trip in a taxi anywhere, and when I looked at the difference - about 10 GBP each way - and my annual travel spend I thought 'F*ck that, no more setbelt-less taxis and psycho drivers to and from the airport in Bangkok'. I value my life at more than 20 GBP return. It's worth at least double that. :tongue3:

I don't like spending more than is necessary on anything travel related, but this is a total no brainer, and to be honest I still wouldn't use those taxis if the difference was double or treble.

HUGE AL 18th August 2010 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Kyo (Post 128360)
...I concur that the AOT service is for pansies :P (muahaha, MAN Flyer)...

And then there are those of us who utilize the hotel cars to relax after a long flight...and gain some additional points. :tongue:

Kyo 18th August 2010 07:49 PM

Pansy. :D

sqdazz 18th August 2010 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Kyo (Post 128410)
Pansy. :D

:thumbsup:

Savage25 18th August 2010 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Kyo (Post 128360)
Like sqdazz, I concur that the AOT service is for pansies :P

+1 :thumbsup:

jjpb3 18th August 2010 11:45 PM

Hi, I'm jjpb3. I'm an AOT limo pansy.

:smile: :wink: :biggrin:

Kyo 18th August 2010 11:55 PM

Dearie me, we seem to be veering off-topic everywhere tonight :)

A new thread for BKK taxis and their drivers, then? :p

jjpb3 19th August 2010 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Kyo (Post 128429)
Dearie me, we seem to be veering off-topic everywhere tonight :)

A new thread for BKK taxis and their drivers, then? :p

Let's see if this parsing works. :wink: phaleesy, feel free to suggest an alternative title.


jjpb3

sumitsan 19th August 2010 01:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Kyo (Post 128360)
Like sqdazz, I concur that the AOT service is for pansies

.............

Paying 950THB each way is an absolute rort in my opinion and I'd absolutely refuse / never do that.

:thumbsup:

Kyo 19th August 2010 01:09 AM

We'll have to get everyone in for a BKK DO and plan an itinerary that'll just about force everyone into a taxi, or even worse yet a tuk tuk :P

I'd dearly love to see our AOT friends in a tuk tuk! LOL!

Gunnar Smithsen 19th August 2010 01:32 AM

Kyo,

Forget the Tuk Tuk, how 'bout craming everyone into those small truck type things that look like super sized Tuk Tuks - I think they double as something between small buses or something, can't remember their actual name but damn they pack those things TIGHT!

:P

Kyo 19th August 2010 01:57 AM

Sorng-tels! (two-rows?)

Tuk tuks are heaps more fun though... :)

sumitsan 19th August 2010 02:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Kyo (Post 128441)
Sorng-tels! (two-rows?)

Tuk tuks are heaps more fun though... :)

Rode those at CNX. They were fun too.:thumbsup:

phaleesy 19th August 2010 02:25 AM

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Originally Posted by jjpb3 (Post 128431)
Let's see if this parsing works. :wink: phaleesy, feel free to suggest an alternative title.
jjpb3

Goodness... I have started such a trivial thread! :frown: The OP is coming across as someone who whinges about very minor things! BKK taxi drivers are really not that bad, certainly much better than those in some other countries.

I was more concerned about getting enough rest during the layover and the feasibility of getting to/from the airport in that time. Having to deal with a dodgy taxi driver was an additional something which I did not want to cope with.

I think everyone has overlooked my more important question about a night layover!
Quote:

Originally Posted by phaleesy (Post 128351)
Please suggest alternative activities for a single girl in BKK and I might reconsider! :smile: Are there places where I could take pictures of bright city lights like in Shinjuku and Times Square? I know there would always be eating places but I don't know where to go!

Besides the usual clubbing, drinking (not interested in these!) and naughty activities, what else could one do at that time of the night? Night markets? Where to eat?

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Originally Posted by Kyo (Post 128436)
I'd dearly love to see our AOT friends in a tuk tuk! LOL!

What's wrong with a tuk tuk? I prefer scooters myself actually.

Quote:

Originally Posted by jjpb3 (Post 128428)
Hi, I'm jjpb3. I'm an AOT limo pansy.
:smile: :wink: :biggrin:

The hardy pansy species... :wink:

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Originally Posted by HUGE AL (Post 128400)
And then there are those of us who utilize the hotel cars to relax after a long flight...and gain some additional points. :tongue:

The slutty hot-house pansy species... :tongue3:

jjpb3 19th August 2010 04:12 AM

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Originally Posted by phaleesy (Post 128443)
Goodness... I have started such a trivial thread! :frown: The OP is coming across as someone who whinges about very minor things!

Not at all. I think BKK cabbies deserved their own thread. They're one of the few who surpass MNL cabbies in my book. :tongue3: Sounds like the Greek ones are even more remarkable. :D
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Originally Posted by phaleesy (Post 128443)
The slutty hot-house pansy species... :tongue3:

I await the response to this opinion. :biggrin: [Where's the popcorn smiley?]

HUGE AL 19th August 2010 04:41 AM

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Originally Posted by jjpb3 (Post 128450)
They're one of the few who surpass MNL cabbies in my book. :tongue3:

They're definitely close. Miss the '90s when you could get a reputable driver in MNL with a nice car for USD$5 per day. :frown:

Lobster 19th August 2010 09:31 AM

I normally take a taxi from the taxi rank (can't be bothered to go up stairs to save THB50). I did the calculation and my life was worth GBP9.99 so the limos not worth it. I have to say in the last 3 months I have been back in the region and so travelling through Bangkok fairly frequently about 75% of the time the taxi from the airport does have seat belts.

But I have found taxis around town a real pain to use the meter. The last trip I did I had to argue the whole journey with the guy, even as he drove off he was complaining.

sqdazz 19th August 2010 09:57 AM

If you speak a little bit of Thai to them they usually just turn the meter on...

---

IT's spelt a little more like 'Song-Taew' or 'Songthaew' Kyo :tongue: I ride those around a lot too, you dont have much choice when you get into the countryside. there are really big songtaew truck type things going between the small towns too.

phaleesy 19th August 2010 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Lobster (Post 128460)
But I have found taxis around town a real pain to use the meter. The last trip I did I had to argue the whole journey with the guy, even as he drove off he was complaining.

I think you are right. I have never had problems getting back to the airport on the normal taxis. Meter would be turned on, we would always have checked the fare with the hotel before leaving. The only problem was the traffic.

As for taxis around town... I've made quick exits from taxis when they refuse to turn on the meter. I can't be bothered to argue. If they choose to ignore my repeated requests to use the meter, I'd just jump out after a few metres and start walking towards another taxi.

sqdazz 19th August 2010 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by phaleesy (Post 128464)
As for taxis around town... I've made quick exits from taxis when they refuse to turn on the meter. I can't be bothered to argue. If they choose to ignore my repeated requests to use the meter, I'd just jump out after a few metres and start walking towards another taxi.

Good move.

mhadian 19th August 2010 10:53 AM

I'm against using Taxi for going around in city, mo-sai is the way, well sometimes it can be more expensive that taxi ride but you get to your destination faster. Combination of skytrain/subway/mo-sai is the way getting around BKK.

disclaimer: i don't take any responsibility if you end up somewhere in the BKK hospital after usinng mo-sai

sqdazz 19th August 2010 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by mhadian (Post 128468)
I'm against using Taxi for going around in city, mo-sai is the way, well sometimes it can be more expensive that taxi ride but you get to your destination faster. Combination of skytrain/subway/mo-sai is the way getting around BKK.

disclaimer: i don't take any responsibility if you end up somewhere in the BKK hospital after usinng mo-sai

Hahaha - I have been known to use those on the odd occasion. You are right, thats the REAL way to get around!

Gunnar Smithsen 19th August 2010 03:27 PM

Perhaps we can do a mini-amazing race BKK...

Utilising seatbeltless taxis, tuk tuks, 'Song-Taew' or 'Songthaew' (or however they're spelt :P) & Hotel Limos :D

:D

Pinkfloyd 19th August 2010 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Gunnar Smithsen (Post 128495)
Perhaps we can do a mini-amazing race BKK...

Utilising seatbeltless taxis, tuk tuks, 'Song-Taew' or 'Songthaew' (or however they're spelt :P) & Hotel Limos :D

:D

And good ole fashion walking! :tongue:

jjpb3 19th August 2010 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Pinkfloyd (Post 128510)
And good ole fashion walking! :tongue:

As long as it's not July in Bangkok. What miserable humidity!* Singapore felt like a refreshing seaside resort after that.

Go on, Kyo, organize the first SQT BKK (a.k.a. Pansy) Do. :smile: :occasion14:




*And thus I confirm my membership in the Pansy Club. :tongue:

Pinkfloyd 20th August 2010 02:03 AM

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Originally Posted by jjpb3 (Post 128515)
As long as it's not July in Bangkok. What miserable humidity!* Singapore felt like a refreshing seaside resort after that.

Go on, Kyo, organize the first SQT BKK (a.k.a. Pansy) Do. :smile: :occasion14:




*And thus I confirm my membership in the Pansy Club. :tongue:

I know it may sound weird, but after some time in Norway I miss the old humidity! :biggrin: Granted I will be swearing my head off just after a day or two in it... :tongue3:

Yeah, let's have a BKK DO!

Gunnar Smithsen 20th August 2010 04:43 PM

Does that mean you'll be nominating forthe 'pounding the pavement' option for the SQT Amazing Race BKK DO Pinkfloyd :P

fumitani 20th August 2010 04:59 PM

Can I try to race you people in a car...I'll use all the short cuts to get there faster :D


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