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MAN Flyer 11th November 2015 08:53 AM

Confirmed : Marriott have bought Starwood
 
Not seen this on here and I am sure those who are bothered know about it anyway.

As a Hyatt Diamond and Starwood Plat (Life Gold and approaching Life Plat) and a fan of both I can't see how this could be in any way good for me, but we'll see how it pans out. Hyatt could use the extra properties for sure, but would it dilute the excellent programme ?.

saobangpo 11th November 2015 10:33 AM

i'm already starting to notice a change in behaviour in spg staff

don't know if this is an indication that a buyout is imminent

been sometime now since barry sternlicht moved on and his current projects (1hotels, baccarat) are now fully operational

HUGE AL 11th November 2015 05:57 PM

Yeah, we've heard IHG, the Chinese, and now Hyatt/Buffett. Merging would definitely make a worse program for all of us. All the more reason for people to qualify for top tiers -- at least you'll get a year out of it.

saobangpo 16th November 2015 07:10 PM

marriott buys starwood for $12.2 billion in cash and stock
 
marriott buys starwood to create world's largest hotel company

http://www.businessinsider.com/marri...ompany-2015-11

http://money.cnn.com/2015/11/16/inve...tel/index.html

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articl...t-12-2-billion

lcpteck 16th November 2015 07:36 PM

There goes the neighborhood for SPG loyalists...

MAN Flyer 17th November 2015 12:54 AM

Glad it's Marriott rather than Hyatt, but wary of what happens with me close to Life Plat...

Quote:

Originally Posted by lcpteck (Post 197806)
There goes the neighborhood for SPG loyalists...

The reverse, actually, as it is a damn sight easier to get Starwood Plat than Marriott Plat.

SQflyergirl 17th November 2015 04:02 AM

Can't see how this is a good thing. I saw an off the cuff comment by a stranger on an internet forum yesterday saying "that's one less card to carry" which IMHO, displays a lack of understanding of the true meaning of this takeover.

saobangpo 17th November 2015 04:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SQflyergirl (Post 197818)
I saw an off the cuff comment by a stranger on an internet forum yesterday saying "that's one less card to carry"

wots he talking about

I carry at least ten different cards in me purse all the time

some of them just cos they look pretty

saobangpo 17th November 2015 05:23 AM

an article by scott mayerowitz

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/must-...171904387.html

yflyer 17th November 2015 09:15 AM

While I stay frequently at both Marriott and SPG properties (More Marriott this year), I am not familiar with the business environment these hotel chains operate in.

What were the reasons for the merger / acquisition?

HUGE AL 17th November 2015 04:36 PM

I can see Hyatt getting quite a few defectors after the SPG swan song.

HUGE AL 15th March 2016 09:25 AM

And…It's Not Quite Done, as Starwood Receives New Offer from Chinese
 
https://starwood.q4web.com/investor-...t.aspx?print=1

Excluding the $400M Breakup Fee, this represents a 19% increase…not to mention, it's an all cash deal. HOT rose almost 8% on the news today. Starwood's waiver expires on the 17th, so we should hear something VERY SOON.

MAN Flyer 19th March 2016 04:54 PM

They have accepted it and given Marriott tend days to come up with a better offer. I

nteresting.....and there's me trying to sort my life plat this year before Marriott got them and f***ed the programme up.....:smile:

HUGE AL 20th March 2016 03:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MAN Flyer (Post 201020)
They have accepted it and given Marriott tend days to come up with a better offer. I

nteresting.....and there's me trying to sort my life plat this year before Marriott got them and f***ed the programme up.....:smile:

Three years ago, this thread would get MUCH MORE traffic. Didn't post Friday's news since there were no replies earlier. SPG still represents decent values out there. And transferring Points to airlines or using Nights & Flights is still the best in the business.

Lifetime status feels like a lower tier.

Lobster 22nd March 2016 08:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MAN Flyer (Post 201020)
They have accepted it and given Marriott tend days to come up with a better offer. I

nteresting.....and there's me trying to sort my life plat this year before Marriott got them and f***ed the programme up.....:smile:

And now Marriot have come back with a better offer

MAN Flyer 29th March 2016 06:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lobster (Post 201090)
And now Marriot have come back with a better offer

And now the Chinese have upped theirs....

HUGE AL 31st March 2016 05:00 PM

Still shocked that this thread isn't getting any dialog. I know many have jumped off the SPG ship, but there are also still fans. :smile:

SQflyergirl 31st March 2016 05:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MAN Flyer (Post 201280)
have upped theirs....

That sounds oh so much worse than what I'm sure you mean... :p

jhm 31st March 2016 10:51 PM

So when should I transfer away my SPG points is the question ?

MAN Flyer 1st April 2016 01:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HUGE AL (Post 201333)
Still shocked that this thread isn't getting any dialog. I know many have jumped off the SPG ship, but there are also still fans. :smile:

As there is not much anyone can do about it, I suppose we just have to sit and wait.

Quote:

Originally Posted by SQflyergirl (Post 201335)
That sounds oh so much worse than what I'm sure you mean... :p

:biggrin:

milehighj 1st April 2016 08:34 AM

Bye bye Anbang

MAN Flyer 15th April 2018 10:36 PM

Looks like the big announcement about the new/merged programme is tomorrow.

As a Starwood Life Plat I am not hopeful.

KeithMEL 16th April 2018 09:46 AM

As long as I retain lifetime 4pm late checkout I'm happy...

KeithMEL 17th April 2018 08:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KeithMEL (Post 217985)
As long as I retain lifetime 4pm late checkout I'm happy...

Here are the changes:

https://members.marriott.com/?IM=SPG_SPGab_TBOPAPR

My SPG Lifetime Gold will be mapped to the Lifetime Gold Elite tier of the new program, but 4pm check out guarantee has been enhanced to 2pm late check out subject to availability. :frown: Shame as the 4pm guarantee was one of the few (only?) tangible benefits of being Gold IMO.

scooby5 17th April 2018 04:15 PM

Being a lowly SPG and Marriott member, the change looks to help more than hurt.

yflyer 17th April 2018 05:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KeithMEL (Post 218004)
My SPG Lifetime Gold will be mapped to the Lifetime Gold Elite tier of the new program, but 4pm check out guarantee has been enhanced to 2pm late check out subject to availability. :frown: Shame as the 4pm guarantee was one of the few (only?) tangible benefits of being Gold IMO.

Agree that the guaranteed 4pm late check out was one of the best benefits for SPG Gold / Lifetime Gold. Too bad it's going away.

k3nnis 18th April 2018 03:01 PM

Do you guys take advantage of 4pm late checkout for late flights out of the country?

KeithMEL 18th April 2018 03:03 PM

Marriott's CMO for Asia Pacific has confirmed (via AUSBT) that Marriott Golds obtained via status match from SPG Gold through linking the 2 programs will be mapped to Platinum Elite in the new program:

https://www.ausbt.com.au/five-things...tm_source=hero

If you've only got SPG Gold and have not linked your account to Marriott/Ritz-Carlton Rewards, do so before August! Platinum Elite gets some decent benefits and is broadly equivalent to existing 'entry level' SPG Platinum benefits (including suite upgrades and 4pm checkout).

Soothes the loss of 4pm checkout guarantee for me haha, for a year at least. After that, as I'd really only stay at a W where one exists, this makes me even less inclined to stay with any other Starwood/Marriott property over a cool and interesting boutique hotel.

PPSFlyer 18th April 2018 06:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by k3nnis (Post 218039)
Do you guys take advantage of 4pm late checkout for late flights out of the country?

Yes, I am usually on the last flight out of the country. So I always make it a point to ask for late check out (the later the better). That way, I can go about with some sight-seeing/shopping before heading back to my room for a short rest and shower.

PPSFlyer 18th April 2018 06:41 PM

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Lobster 18th April 2018 10:46 PM

Although not perfect I have to say I am quite surprised at how generous Marriot have been. Just about every blog I read before the announcement basically said that platinum as we had known it under SPG would not start until 75 nights. But the final outcome has platinum starting at 50 nights and the increase at 75 and 100 being quite minimal in my opinion.

Unfortunately this means that it is still worth my while trying to get lifetime platinum


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