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  • SIA to place US$7.5b order for more A380s and A350s

    Singapore Airlines has agreed to order five more Airbus A380s and another 20
    A350s for additional capacity growth and fleet renewal.
    The firm order commitments are valued at US$7.5 billion based on Airbus’
    published list prices. Deliveries are due to begin in 2017.
    SIA currently operates 19 A380-800 superjumbos and already had firm orders in
    place for 20 A350s, for delivery from 2015. As with the earlier A350 order, the
    A350-900 variant has been selected for the 20 additional aircraft, all powered by
    Rolls-Royce Trent XWB engines. Trent 900 engines will power the additional
    A380s.
    “This major order will provide us with additional growth opportunities and is
    consistent with our longstanding policy of maintaining a young and modern fleet.
    It demonstrates our commitment to the Singapore hub, and our confidence in the
    strength of the market for premium full-service travel,” said SIA CEO Mr Goh
    Choon Phong.
    “The aircraft will enable us to further enhance our network, providing more travel
    options to our customers. They will also feature the next generation of in-flight
    cabin products to keep us at the forefront of airline product innovation.”
    SIA’s A380s now serve 10 destinations, namely Frankfurt, Hong Kong, London,
    Los Angeles, Melbourne, New York, Paris, Sydney, Tokyo and Zurich, and they
    have carried more than 9 million passengers since entering service on 25 October
    2007. The A350s are intended for use on medium and long-haul routes.

    As part of the deal, Airbus has agreed to acquire SIA’s five A340-500s, which will
    be removed from service in the fourth quarter of the 2013 calendar year, in line
    with the Airline’s policy to maintain a young fleet. This will result in the cessation
    of non-stop flights between Singapore and Los Angeles and between Singapore
    and Newark, in the absence of replacement aircraft in the SIA fleet with sufficient
    range and operating economics.
    “Although disappointing that we will be halting these services, we remain very
    committed to the US market. Over the past two years we have increased capacity
    to both Los Angeles and New York by deploying A380 superjumbos on flights via
    Tokyo and Frankfurt. We will also continue to explore additional options to
    enhance our US services,” added Mr Goh.
    With the new commitments announced today, SIA will have firm purchase or
    lease orders in place with Airbus and Boeing for 68 new widebody aircraft,
    including 15 additional A330-300s and eight additional B777-300ERs ordered last
    year. This excludes 20 B787s on firm order that will be transferred to low-cost
    subsidiary Scoot to support its growth plans, as well as regional arm SilkAir’s
    recent order commitments for at least 54 B737 aircraft.
    Have you checked your blind spot lately?

  • #2
    Originally posted by astroboy View Post
    As part of the deal, Airbus has agreed to acquire SIA’s five A340-500s,
    My take, Airbus needs SQ more than SQ needs airbus

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    • #3
      Devastated that A345 will not be replaced...

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      • #4
        Their 20 B787s on order are going to Scoot.
        Singapore Airlines - A great way to fly...

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        • #5
          Originally posted by astroboy View Post
          ...This excludes 20 B787s on firm order that will be transferred to low-cost subsidiary Scoot to support its growth plans, as well as regional arm SilkAir’s recent order commitments for at least 54 B737 aircraft.
          Did they transfer their 787 order to Scoot, just like that? No Dreamliners in SIA livery then, at least not in the near future.

          Also, the A380 order seems like a replacement for their first few frames, which would be 9 or 10 years of age in 2017. Not much "additional growth opportunities" with the superjumbo then.

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          • #6
            The 789's were never meant to do any long haul sectors anyway so it doesn't come as a surprise that these aircrafts will be going to Scoot. I do feel that this means the 333's will have a place in the SQ fleet for years to come and the 772 will be phased out with the deliveries of the new batch of 15 333's. Furthermore I wouldn't be surprised if down the line we see a 787-10X order from SIA to replace the 333's in the long term. I believe the 787-10X will take a range hit with the additional capacity and length over the other 787 variants (just my speculation, no hard facts) thus making the aircraft attractive for SIA's regional flights (one must remember that SIA considers AUS/NZ and China as worthy of the current inferior regional offerings).

            I do believe the transition from the 772ER's that Scoot currently operates to the 787-9 would be preferred for fleet commonality purposes. One must remember that SIA's management is extremely conservative. Furthermore SIA maintains an average fleet age of 6 years and 4 months as of OCT2012 and I think that they have taken the 5 Kingfisher slots with deliveries estimated in 2016 and 2017. These will most likely replace 9V-SKA-F as they were delivered in 2007 and 2008.
            The world's too large a place not to go wandering.

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            • #7
              looks like SIA will go for all-airbus passenger planes when its current 77Ws are phased out in future. But am sure SIA have a good deal on the airbus orders, as airbus will take back its A346s and gives preffered leases for its A333s in the interim.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by flyguy View Post
                looks like SIA will go for all-airbus passenger planes when its current 77Ws are phased out in future. But am sure SIA have a good deal on the airbus orders, as airbus will take back its A346s and gives preffered leases for its A333s in the interim.
                It's a shame for those of us who prefer Boeing over Airbus. They at least have a mix at present to keep both sides happy. Very hard for me to pick an A340 over a 777. Hopefully the A350 will pleasantly surprise me.

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                • #9
                  Very SAD day indeed..

                  Need the 747s back - new 747 8s will do !

                  Let's see if they deliver something brilliant for a change, really miss those pleasant & welcome decisions
                  Last edited by HuskyFlyer; 25 October 2012, 07:37 PM.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by HuskyFlyer View Post
                    Very SAD day indeed..

                    Need the 747s back - new 747 8s will do !

                    Let's see if they deliver something brilliant for a change, really miss those pleasant & welcome decisions
                    Boeing is just better than Airbus for many reasons [long haul wise]: Takes lesser time to reach destination (depending on winds of course), I like how the 777 and 747 windows are like (they're really similar), and the wing flex of landing is better, since the flaps lift up faster after it touches the ground. There's so many more to name, but I've flown Boeing aircrafts long haul instead of Airbus.

                    So all in all, I'd be really sad if they phase out the 77W and 777s and have an all Airbus fleet. Definitely like the mix of Boeing and Airbus aircraft in their fleet. Unless I go to another place in India operated by SQ, it's by another 777. If not, it's obviously SilkAir's A320.

                    It'd be nice if they can order the 747-8i. But I was wondering why they couldn't have ordered 77Ls before for these long haul routes to LAX and EWR (nonstop that is)?

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by SQfanatic View Post
                      Boeing is just better than Airbus for many reasons [long haul wise]: Takes lesser time to reach destination (depending on winds of course), I like how the 777 and 747 windows are like (they're really similar), and the wing flex of landing is better, since the flaps lift up faster after it touches the ground. There's so many more to name, but I've flown Boeing aircrafts long haul instead of Airbus.
                      You are being sarcastic...right?
                      The world's too large a place not to go wandering.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by SQfanatic View Post
                        Boeing is just better than Airbus for many reasons [long haul wise]: Takes lesser time to reach destination (depending on winds of course), I like how the 777 and 747 windows are like (they're really similar), and the wing flex of landing is better, since the flaps lift up faster after it touches the ground. There's so many more to name, but I've flown Boeing aircrafts long haul instead of Airbus.
                        Say what?

                        I have products going on both OEMs and although the two companies have different approaches, they both make darn good airplanes.

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                        • #13
                          Please keep this thread on topic and refrain from turning this into a Boeing vs Airbus thread.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by SQfanatic View Post
                            So all in all, I'd be really sad if they phase out the 77W and 777s and have an all Airbus fleet. Definitely like the mix of Boeing and Airbus aircraft in their fleet. Unless I go to another place in India operated by SQ, it's by another 777. If not, it's obviously SilkAir's A320.
                            The 77Ws will be around for some time yet, there's still an outstanding order for 8.

                            Originally posted by SQfanatic View Post
                            It'd be nice if they can order the 747-8i. But I was wondering why they couldn't have ordered 77Ls before for these long haul routes to LAX and EWR (nonstop that is)?
                            ULHs look nice for the records, but they simply don't earn enough to work, whichever the aircraft.

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                              Last edited by SQtraveller; 20 August 2017, 04:55 AM.

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