Increase in PPS qualification requirement, removal of sectors on CGK flights ?

[MAN Flyer]

I heard that LPPS may also be on the deck for increase so anyone close to it better make a run for it...

I know someone on here who is getting very close to LPPS and won't like hearing that.

On a related note, I sincerely hope they don't increase TPP qualification.

I am now on the downward slope towards TPP. I will continue try and get there as soon as I can without going silly and doing too many unecessary flights.

However, if they up it before I get there then it will defeinitely ensure I stop going out of my way and paying over the (ever increasing) odds to fly SQ and will instead just try and ensure I requalify as QPP and start looking a bit more at price and convenience, the latter especially on RTW's.

[KeithMEL]

I might be able to squeak through to the giddy heights of QPP if they maintain the existing prerequisites. That's based on my current travel patterns and without doing ridiculous sector runs. Just need to maybe spend a little bit more on SQ instead of a cheaper *A carrier like TG/LH when traveling in long haul premium cabins. But like MAN Flyer, I'd be less enthusiastic if the prerequisites are made harder, and there's no longer an incentive to spend just that little bit more. *G suits my needs for now.

[SQ TPP]

The Past

I heard that in the past, SQ had done a special PPS booster, by awarding PPS sectors to the flights less than 1 hour 30 minutes. Thus, the shuttle SIN-KUL-SIN got PPS sectors. Anyone knew about this? Or is it just a myth?
It used to be only 16 LPP only, and suddenly the numbers were very high.

[SuperFlyBoy]

I know someone on here who is getting very close to LPPS and won't like hearing that.

On a related note, I sincerely hope they don't increase TPP qualification.

I am now on the downward slope towards TPP. I will continue try and get there as soon as I can without going silly and doing too many unecessary flights.

However, if they up it before I get there then it will defeinitely ensure I stop going out of my way and paying over the (ever increasing) odds to fly SQ and will instead just try and ensure I requalify as QPP and start looking a bit more at price and convenience, the latter especially on RTW's.

As one who just started on QPP, I think that I wouldn't bother to continue, as there would really no benefit to it, imo....too expensive for minor gains, if any! - SQ still has to show me any real results being PPS...(no offense to anyone!)

[jhm]

Following an idea pointed out by Raffles on TOF, if they raise the PPS (re)qualification requirement, I would at least try to meet them until I can see what will be in SIN T3. It would be somewhat gutting to lose PPS and then SQ unveil (for example) an amazing new SKL F!

[zvezda]

I think it's a safe bet that the SKL F lounge in T3 will be amazing.

[MAN Flyer]

I think it's a safe bet that the SKL F lounge in T3 will be amazing.

They will have had to make some changes to the original plans then, as it's design and location were not that great, allegedly.

[aerosmith]

Following an idea pointed out by Raffles on TOF, if they raise the PPS (re)qualification requirement, I would at least try to meet them until I can see what will be in SIN T3. It would be somewhat gutting to lose PPS and then SQ unveil (for example) an amazing new SKL F!

There is no guarantee that SQ will stick to the current privileges for QPP/TPP/LPP when they change the requalification requirement.

e.g. regarding the extended use of SKL, the rules might change to:

SKL F : SQ F BP or TPP/LPP members in any class (QPP with SQ C BP no access)

SKL C: SQ C BP or QPP members in Y class

i.e. my speculation, nothing will stop them in withdrawing the "extended access" in SKL for QPP or even TPP to address the SKL overcrowding issue.

[zvezda]

regarding the extended use of SKL, the rules might change to:

SKL F : SQ F BP or TPP/LPP members in any class (QPP with SQ C BP no access)

I think it's more likely that SQ would stop allowing TTP on Y tickets in the F side than QPP on C tickets. I find it very difficult to imagine SQ treating a TPP with a Y ticket better than QPP with a C ticket.

[jjpb3]

On the other hand, QPPs probably normally fly in C, so they could be responsible for the squeeze in the SKL F. It's possible that continuing TPP access on any ticket and discontiuing QPP access will have a greater impact on the 'exclusivity' of the F side (while rewarding the sustained profitable loyalty that TPP status demonstrates).

There would be a similarity with OneWorld status: Emerald gives access to F lounges, C BPs don't.

Just speculation on my part, of course. I personally think SQ will fiddle with the thresholds, rather than the privileges.

[jhm]

the squeeze in the SKL F

Is there such a problem ? I've never been in the SKL F so far but, as I understand, it's obviously less crowded than the SKL J, e.g. somebody mentioned I think almost never having to wait for a shower in the SKL F side.

In any event, even if SQ don't upgrade the facilities in the SKL J/F, surely they would make them bigger in T3!

[zvezda]

Is there such a problem ? I've never been in the SKL F so far but, as I understand, it's obviously less crowded than the SKL J, e.g. somebody mentioned I think almost never having to wait for a shower in the SKL F side.

In any event, even if SQ don't upgrade the facilities in the SKL J/F, surely they would make them bigger in T3!

I've spent a lot of time in the SKL F at SIN. Sometimes it's at capacity, but I've never seen a situation where one can't find anyplace to sit.

[jjpb3]

Is there such a problem ? I've never been in the SKL F so far but, as I understand, it's obviously less crowded than the SKL J, e.g. somebody mentioned I think almost never having to wait for a shower in the SKL F side.

I've experienced the crowdedness when I've gone in between 7:30 and 9:00 am. It was not uncommon to see people circling around for a minute or so with their rollaboards, trying to find relatively open seating. IMO, it doesn't take being at 100% capacity to have the feeling of 'exclusivity' significantly diminished. (Of course, it certainly is more exclusive than the concourse areas outside. )

In any event, even if SQ don't upgrade the facilities in the SKL J/F, surely they would make them bigger in T3!

No doubt. But that doesn't remove their temptation to increase the qualification/requal requirements.

[MAN Flyer]

I am afraid to say that the SKL just doesn't cut it any longer in the bigger scheme of things. Take away the Dom, and I suppose some of the variances of food, and I am afraid it's just another every day average lounge.

It may have been a bit of a market leader initially but I am afraid it has been caught up and overtaken by a number of lounges. What has surprised me is, listening to the interviews with the launch of the new inflight products they kept saying how other airlines had launched new products and closed the gap, so they were taking the lead again.

If that is so, what are they going to do about the fact that a number of airlines flagship lounges are far better than Changi's SKL, and in some cases blow it away ?.

Off the top of my head the lounges that are far better than it are:

LH FCL - Now widely believed to be the best in the world

CX Wing at HKG - supposedly their biggest rival!

VS LHR Clubhouse - other Clubhouses may also be better I don't know, but they own 49% on this lot for heavens sake....

MH KUL lounge - some may disagree with this but take away the Dom and being in here is a far more enjoyable experience. Another local rival to boot.

QR have just opened a dedicated lounge for J & F pax and other will undoubtedly follow. I am sure there are others.

The answer is not to try and reduce the number of your top tier FF's but to make sure you have sufficient facilities for them. If their pax numbers are increasing, and bearing in mind SQ's reliance on those up front, then the lounges need updating.

[jhm]

Bash the SIN SKL day today it seems!

As far as I'm concerned, you don't even need to go as far as looking at the LHR VS CH, FRA FCT etc. I've said before that I find the CGK Esplanade lounge much more pleasant than the SKL J (and, presumably, the SKL F) given the natural light, outside view and - most importantly for me - very friendly staff who offer to fetch you a drink etc.

The same applies for, e.g., the HKG VS CH (where I was asked what I wanted to eat/drink on entering and also later when I was using a PC to access the Internet) and the NRT NH F lounge (cold towel, ice cream etc brought to you!).

Perhaps it's different for those VVVIP's who're well known (and loved ) in the SKL but I have had no interaction with the SKL J staff - with the exception of the shower attendant who is very friendly.