NYC-SIN paid F: what happens if JFK-NYC is cancelled?

[Gunnar Smithsen]

I promise to ask the Mods next time I need assistance though. Thanks for the advice.....and the 'clarification' of what you really meant. I didn't realise we'd moved the discussion onto J class, I thought this was about F.

Ooooh and don't forget to use the search function

[stargold]

For a relatively short-term poster, he sure does know how to rub everyone up the wrong way...

[MAN Flyer]

Not sure where you got this from my Mancunian friend , but it's not a quote from me. If you would kindly check again in earlier posts on this thread, I believe you will not find such an opinion from me?

Err, perhaps you would like to re-read post number 10 on this thread.....and engage one's brain before putting one's metaphoric mouth (or keyboard) into gear.

I promise to ask the Mods next time I need assistance though. Thanks for the advice.....and the 'clarification' of what you really meant. I didn't realise we'd moved the discussion onto J class, I thought this was about F.

Oh, and don't ever call me a Mancunian.

Yes I fly from the airport an awful lot, but I neither live in Manchester or work there. Nor have I ever done either.

MAN misquote!!!

Originally Posted by philipat
Yes it doesn't suit evreyone but there are only 16 seats up there and I find it very private and comfortable....F is a bit cramped, only 8 seats and a small cabin.

I can't quite understand how you could find half the seats on the main deck of a widebody aircraft, all of which have aisle access and full windows, to be more cramped than the Upper Deck of a 744 with twice as many seats and only half with aisle access

Not sure where you got this from my Mancunian friend , but it's not a quote from me. If you would kindly check again in earlier posts on this thread, I believe you will not find such an opinion from me?

To be clear, what I said was that LH First Class has 16 setas in the 744 Upper Deck. Other airlines have at least 28 Business Class seats in the Upper deck of the 744, so I find LH F Very spacious and comfortable. Next time you have problems with your English language please do not misquote me and perhaps ask me or the Mods for help? I am reporting your post on the basis of being a misquote.

[LionCity]

Just to go back to this.

To be honest, you can't be sure what is going to happen at the moment such is the fluidity of the situation. Routes that were thought to be safe could get pulled (look at YVR...), those under threat could get a reprieve or an equip swap.

JFK may well survive, although if it does it the 744 obviously has to go and a 77W is favourite, as has been the intention for a while. They've got a bit of 'bird shuffling' to do over the next few months.

But, anything can happen...

Thanks Man Flyer, the situation is becoming more fluid by the day. My European trip is becoming a bigger mess now. I am going to keep my booking at a later date for the NYC trip.

[Savage25]

Savage25, do you have any rough estimates on when LH will overhaul its new F product? Do you suppose they may do this in another half a year, by say, September?

No idea. I think it'll only happen when their A380s arrive, whenever that is.

[MAN Flyer]

I am planning a flight from NYC to SIN in F Class at the end of the year. I have read about the possibility of canceling JFK - FRA on this website. That means leaving possibly just the EWR - SIN without F Class.

Just to go back to this.

To be honest, you can't be sure what is going to happen at the moment such is the fluidity of the situation. Routes that were thought to be safe could get pulled (look at YVR...), those under threat could get a reprieve or an equip swap.

JFK may well survive, although if it does it the 744 obviously has to go and a 77W is favourite, as has been the intention for a while. They've got a bit of 'bird shuffling' to do over the next few months.

But, anything can happen...

[MAN Flyer]

Yes it doesn't suit evreyone but there are only 16 seats up there and I find it very private and comfortable....F is a bit cramped, only 8 seats and a small cabin.

I can't quite understand how you could find half the seats on the main deck of a widebody aircraft, all of which have aisle access and full windows, to be more cramped than the Upper Deck of a 744 with twice as many seats and only half with aisle access.

However...

. That would be my take. But very fortunately we are all different and have our own preferences.

Quite!.

[pogonation]

LX is your best bet. JFK is also the first airport to recieve LX's new A330 at the end of this month which is fitted with the new F class (which looks to be in the top 3 worldwide IMO) http://www.swiss.com/web/EN/services...rst_class.aspx

Also there is a good chance your a340 to SIN will have been upgraded with the new seat by the end of this year. I have flown both LX F and SQ F recently and must say that the experiences are both very good and of a similar standard IMO (SQ just ahead for service but only very very slightly). Good food on LX and a nice lounge in ZRH exclusively for LX F pax with a mercedes van transfer to aeroplane.

Get it changed to LX!

[9V-JKL]

what to do JFK-SIN F if SQ stops? That was the basis for my response.

LX is a good alternative if its F all the way. If you don't mind C for intra-Asia, NH & OZ are also very good choices.

[Kyo]

As others have said, I'd probably go back via Europe, in that case.

I don't like it, really. Combined with the outdated LH F product, the whole experience comes off as a top-end business experience, rather than a First experience. LH F on the A330/340 is much better.

Savage25, do you have any rough estimates on when LH will overhaul its new F product? Do you suppose they may do this in another half a year, by say, September? Any clues what route they're putting their A388 on?

So JFK-SIN *A?

I don't like it, really. Combined with the outdated LH F product, the whole experience comes off as a top-end business experience, rather than a First experience. LH F on the A330/340 is much better.

Yes, it's not the best seat BUT the question was, and I'm assuming *A (Perhaps wrongly?), what to do JFK-SIN F if SQ stops? That was the basis for my response. VS Upper via LHR might be another option, but that's not truly F.

[Savage25]

Sorry, also forgot to say I also like the space in the LH First on the Upper Deck of the 744.

I don't like it, really. Combined with the outdated LH F product, the whole experience comes off as a top-end business experience, rather than a First experience. LH F on the A330/340 is much better.

LH JFK-SIN

Oh I don't, it's the main downside of LH F on the 744 imho.

Yes it doesn't suit evreyone but there are only 16 seats up there and I find it very private and comfortable. Many business travellers like the C Class Upper deck on other carriers for its privacy and that is with a minimum of 26 seats. If travelling alone in LH F I find Row 83 to be very spacious and comfortable. I just flew back from JFK last week on LH with only 2 others in F and it was a very nice flight, great food, great wines and great service. The crews do vary with LH but I like that.

However, and apologies that I contributed to this with my supplemental last post, but this is OFF TOPIC. The OP was regarding SPECIFICALLY JFK-SIN. I like LX very much (And used to adore Swissair F) but prefer LH JFK-SIN because LH has more flights NYC-Europe than LX and the LX F is a bit cramped, only 8 seats and a small cabin. Both lines have only one daily flight from Europe to SIN and both leave at around the same time, 22:00+ PM. The LX flight, however, stops over in BKK, the LH is direct. Beyond that, the dedicated LH F Terminal at FRA is a great place to spend time in transit, whereas the LX F lounge in ZRH is pleasant but has less privacy and facilities.

That would be my take. But very fortunately we are all different and have our own preferences.

[MAN Flyer]

Sorry, also forgot to say I also like the space in the LH First on the Upper Deck of the 744.

Oh I don't, it's the main downside of LH F on the 744 imho.